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Tech Section => Radio Talk => Topic started by: Davo on May 09, 2014, 04:15:53 PM

Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Davo on May 09, 2014, 04:15:53 PM
MikadoUSA.com is pleased to announce the pricing of the new VBAR Control radio! Check it out below!

http://shop.mikadousa.com/search.asp?keyword=vbar+control

Pricing has now been announced not too bad!


Cheers Davo
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Envygreen on May 09, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
Come on! Someone buy my Goblin 770 so I can get one of these bad boys!!!!!!!!!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: hungryhippos on May 09, 2014, 08:27:53 PM
Quote from: Envygreen;1591465
Come on! Someone buy my Goblin 770 so I can get one of these bad boys!!!!!!!!!

When I clicked on the link
Quote
The Best looking G770...
in the classifieds, I was expecting a JR G770 Gyro without any scratches etc. Instead I was confronted with a Goblin.

But more seriously, is this transmitter vbar specific? or can it also be used as a generic transmitter for a traditional flybarred dinosaur?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Grubscrew on May 09, 2014, 11:56:40 PM
Fantastic price if you ask me, I'm getting one fo shizzle!!!

Edit: Wait hold on, is the Vbar Receiver required? Or will it work with just a vbar and normal dsmx rxs?
I ain't paying another $100 per heli lol..
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Deet on May 10, 2014, 12:15:31 AM
It will ONLY work with a Vbar, and YES, you need the vbar Rx as well

It will not work on any other aircraft at this time, only helis
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Agusta on May 10, 2014, 12:16:27 AM
Vbar only


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Grubscrew on May 10, 2014, 12:45:00 AM
Fold. I'm not paying $100 extra for every heli I own. That's crap, I'll stick to my bluetooth and the vbar app on my tablet.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on May 10, 2014, 01:26:39 AM
I would guess they will come out with an all in one unit like the Spektrum/BeastX at some stage that might make it a better value proposition but I can't see enough benefits over using another Tx (that supports telemetry) and an android device and BT adaptor.

//Dennis,
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Deet on May 10, 2014, 04:32:14 AM
As A Tx it is a "dumb" radio, it does have telemetry, and it has a setup app built in. That should make it a low price handset, not a premium price device

By dumb I mean, there are no model memories, no curves, nothing, it sends four sticks and a couple of switches to the vbar, the vbar does the rest. When you bind to the vbar the vbar shows the model name via telemetry.

In essence it's a bi-directional  dx-6 with an app, that will only work with vbar
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Agusta on May 10, 2014, 05:38:06 AM
Couldnt have said it better myself Deet. Its dumb.


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Acrow on May 10, 2014, 07:32:02 AM
Quote from: Grubscrew;1591505
Fold. I'm not paying $100 extra for every heli I own. That's crap, I'll stick to my bluetooth and the vbar app on my tablet.

You could start with just one VBar receiver unless you fly more than one at a time!

Regards

Acrow
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Envygreen on May 10, 2014, 09:17:15 AM
Quote from: hungryhippos;1591489
When I clicked on the link  in the classifieds, I was expecting a JR G770 Gyro without any scratches etc. Instead I was confronted with a Goblin.


Agreed, thanks I've changed the heading...... Now come on someone buy this awesome Goblin so I can order this Vbar control.....  :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: hungryhippos on May 10, 2014, 09:48:40 AM
Quote from: Envygreen;1591520
Agreed, thanks I've changed the heading...... Now come on someone buy this awesome Goblin so I can order this Vbar control.....  :)


Sorry, I just love my very bad jokes and can't help myself :D.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on May 26, 2014, 08:56:03 AM
Noticed a couple of vids released from Mikado, showing a bit more about the Vbar radio and how it works...  Give you a bit more feel for the radio and how it operates and how the software works...

[video=youtube;w_rndbnUej0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_rndbnUej0&feature=player_embedded[/video]

[video=youtube;eFBvTgAZskM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFBvTgAZskM&feature=player_embedded[/video]
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on May 26, 2014, 09:05:40 AM
Australian release is 1-2 month away. Awaiting approvals.
I ordered one but was refunded
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on May 26, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
Wow...  Did they not accept your order, or actually refund money..?  Would it be c-tick they are waiting for in Aust..?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ajbruzz on May 26, 2014, 05:44:54 PM
$750 not too bad! http://shop.mikadousa.com/04841-Mikado-VBar-Control-Radio-with-RX-Satellite-greyblack_p_939.html
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Heraldo on May 26, 2014, 07:42:31 PM
Not too bad if it came with a vbar....

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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: muzz105 on May 26, 2014, 07:49:28 PM
Na it comes with the sat receiver, and each heli will need on to operate with the control radio.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Karl on May 27, 2014, 08:47:24 AM
Looks easy to set up up ,I like it
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on May 27, 2014, 09:26:08 AM
Quote from: Karl;1592613
Looks easy to set up up ,I like it

yeah, that's what I though also Karl....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 14, 2014, 04:50:04 PM
Mine is here im holding it now!

Will start to set up mostro now
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 14, 2014, 05:12:14 PM
Pic next to dx9
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on June 14, 2014, 05:25:26 PM
M,  first thoughts re the gimbles..?  How do the sticks feel..?  No different, same, lighter, solid..?  Any initial comments on the general feel of the radio in the hand, and the sticks..?

May be just the angle of the photo, but do the sticks on the V tx look slightly lower in the case..?  Does that make the top switches a bit more of a stretch to reach..?

Thx...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on June 14, 2014, 05:26:26 PM
I take it they are now Aust / MAAA approved....?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: 5FIDY on June 14, 2014, 05:45:39 PM
:1blue1::smirk:
Quote from: helicraze;1593907
Pic next to dx9


Looks gay. So it suits you mate. Lol
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 14, 2014, 06:05:58 PM
Feels good. added apps and waiting to unlock a vbar to upgrade to 6
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Deet on June 14, 2014, 07:39:35 PM
Quote from: wizza;1593910
I take it they are now Aust / MAAA approved....?

MAAA no longer approves radios, you can use anything you like.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on June 14, 2014, 07:51:20 PM
So what was the delay for Aust market..???  C-tick or something..????
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 14, 2014, 08:33:55 PM
Mikado was mis informed thats all so bought through my own channels.

The radio does appear cheap to look at, but so does the 8fg in my opinion.  Form and function is the most important bit for me.

It has all features i need
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: tommybear on June 14, 2014, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: helicraze;1593924
Mikado was mis informed thats all so bought through my own channels.

The radio does appear cheap to look at, but so does the 8fg in my opinion.  Form and function is the most important bit for me.

It has all features i need


I will bet it will be the first Vbar control to be listed on CT in less than one month.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: 5FIDY on June 14, 2014, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: helicraze;1593924
Mikado was mis informed thats all so bought through my own channels.

The radio does appear cheap to look at, but so does the 8fg in my opinion.  Form and function is the most important bit for me.

It has all features i need

Can't argue with that mate I have a 8fg and I thought the same cheap and nasty looking
But does everything I want and more. Can't wait to see you Flippin us the stix buddy.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Agusta on June 14, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
Why on earth would folks shell out over $700+ bucks for this dud when the Graupner MZ 24 HoTT radio talks to everything (ESC's, All Recievers, and much more) for $499 with all the free extras??


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 14, 2014, 10:18:28 PM
Are you aware of the vbar control features? There is no radio that can do what this does when paired with vbar
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Waxie on June 14, 2014, 10:26:12 PM
This maybe a better description for this radio.  :p

[ATTACH=CONFIG]56835[/ATTACH]
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Agusta on June 15, 2014, 12:06:13 AM
Quote from: helicraze;1593935
Are you aware of the vbar control features? There is no radio that can do what this does when paired with vbar

Granted HC. But thats all it does. $700 bucks for a one way chat?? More VBar Fanboy Fodder IMHO
Im sure VBar will sell all 20 of them :)


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: craigcec on June 15, 2014, 01:05:50 AM
Jeeez this place is just so fun. Everyone is so supportive and helpful.
So many positive posts................

Good on ya HC. Love to here how it goes.

I teach my kids "Got nothing good to say don't say it"

Cheers Craig.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on June 15, 2014, 04:37:42 AM
While I don't think I will be buying one anytime soon, this is a good piece of innovation from Mikado. If the Telemetry on top of the other features lives up to the promise this could be a very good move by them as it will drive more Vbar sales as well. HC has started to answer the key question which is around the quality of the gimbals, one thing that a few have questioned so I for one look forward to hearing all about it.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Agusta on June 15, 2014, 06:37:57 AM
Im of the opinion that this is just an overated and expensive gimick by Mikado in order to try and keep the VBar marketted. VBar was once the be all and end all of FBL controllers but not any more. Theres better out there nowadays and Mikado sat on their hands for too long. VBar will loose market dominance within a few years, hence they bring out this overpriced toy to extend the inevitable IMHO.


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: astr0b0y on June 15, 2014, 07:21:58 AM
Luckily no one is forced into buying anything. I'd imagine that if you're a V-Bar user and these turn out to be a high quality unit then Mikado will see a fair amount of users switching to them over the next few years. Their chosen software platform allows for a lot more innovation in terms of widgets and gadgets in the future.
Looking forward to hearing your impressions under use HC.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: 5FIDY on June 15, 2014, 08:25:35 AM
Quote from: craigcec;1593943
Jeeez this place is just so fun. Everyone is so supportive and helpful.
So many positive posts................

Good on ya HC. Love to here how it goes.

I teach my kids "Got nothing good to say don't say it"

Cheers Craig.

Still reckon he is gay!!!! Lol
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 15, 2014, 08:45:06 AM
Almost finished setup on banshee will go over it again as the menus are easy but need some getting used to
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: gasmoto on June 15, 2014, 08:52:05 AM
Quote from: Agusta;1593949
Im of the opinion that this is just an overated and expensive gimick by Mikado in order to try and keep the VBar marketted. VBar was once the be all and end all of FB controllers but not any more. Theres better out there nowadays and Mikado sat on their hands for too long. VBar will loose market dominance within a few years, hence they bring out this overpriced toy to extend the inevitable IMHO.


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I didn't no vbar made fb controllers.
I'm looking forward to seeing you fly one day as you sound like your better than nick maxwell.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: poorman on June 15, 2014, 08:58:30 AM
well if anyone is to try this controller out and find any bugs ect theres no better hands thens H.C in melbourne..
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Agusta on June 15, 2014, 08:58:42 AM
Forgot the 'L'. Tis fixed.


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 15, 2014, 09:10:27 AM
Interesting opinions. Well in the meantime during mikados demise ill enjoy my vbar control
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on June 15, 2014, 11:43:22 AM
where did Craigs posts go and why were they deleted  ?

His posts  wern't negative and full of  BS and dribble like  Agusta's  posts , but we kind of expect it from  media reporters .


looking forward to checking it out with you Michael
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: astr0b0y on June 15, 2014, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: Fasster;1593973
where did Craigs posts go and why were they deleted  ?

His posts  wern't negative and full of  BS and dribble like  Agusta's  posts , but we kind of expect it from  media reporters .


looking forward to checking it out with you Michael

I've had a look through this thread and cannot see and moderated or deleted posts, Andrew.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: tommybear on June 15, 2014, 11:48:41 AM
Quote from: craigcec;1593943
Jeeez this place is just so fun. Everyone is so supportive and helpful.
So many positive posts................

Good on ya HC. Love to here how it goes.

I teach my kids "Got nothing good to say don't say it"

Cheers Craig.


Quote from: Fasster;1593973
where did Craigs posts go and why were they deleted  ?

His posts  wern't negative and full of  BS and dribble like  Agusta's  posts , but we kind of expect it from  media reporters .


looking forward to checking it out with you Michael


Craig's post is still there.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on June 15, 2014, 12:06:18 PM
Quote from: astr0b0y;1593974
I've had a look through this thread and cannot see and moderated or deleted posts, Andrew.


Hi Jeremy

I can see them now ,for some reason they were not visible to me 15 mins ago , i looked through twice but they were not there , all good

I do have to say that IMO Mikado set the bench mark for FBL controllers and everyone else have been chasing since and are still chasing , Vbar 6 will be the next level
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: beans07 on June 15, 2014, 05:23:33 PM
I am looking forward to getting one myself. I have had vbar since early V3 tried others but still go back. This will add some nice extra features and simplicity as well.

People that aren't happy with the features or price.. don't buy it.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on June 15, 2014, 06:03:13 PM
I agree.

Yes to me Vbar Control is zero value, but I'm happy that they're continuing to support others - as in, I would have been supremely pissed off if v6.0 improvements were vbar control only (it looks that way now, but apparently they're going to add support for PC and Android later..)

I also agree - one trick pony etc erc, and no exit path for me for my current system as I also fly planks.

Helicraze, I'm still curious about a few things not available in other forums. Eg. What extra features does this have over a Android Blue tooth + Tx setup?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 15, 2014, 07:37:32 PM
Real time logging, rx batt, settings on the fly further than bluetooth range. Vibe analysis

Planks that why dx9

I cant change what mikado so i buy one
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 15, 2014, 11:09:48 PM
Mah counter is in production and shipping soon! Sweeetttt!

Mostro ready to go,
Im comfortable with menus now, just need to setup banshee and test fly and tune
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Waxie on June 15, 2014, 11:13:51 PM
To be honest if you were tuning your vbar with your radio while flying further than bluetooth range you are just asking for trouble.  How long would you need to look away from the model to access and change the settings??? doesn't sound to safe to me, or smart for that matter.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on June 15, 2014, 11:21:41 PM
Thanks Michael. Sounds like my current setup does everything it can except modify vbar settings beyond bluetooth range.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 15, 2014, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: Waxie;1594032
To be honest if you were tuning your vbar with your radio while flying further than bluetooth range you are just asking for trouble.  How long would you need to look away from the model to access and change the settings??? doesn't sound to safe to me, or smart for that matter.


Of course not practical but an example.

But there is a dial that can be assigned to any setting, so you can on the fly adjust the "style" as you fly.

Doesnt sound any more dangerous to me than flicking an expo switch

There are other things you can do as well

Im not going to convince anyone they need one, but if you try to convince yourself you dont need one id say your mind is already made up.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Waxie on June 16, 2014, 09:34:00 AM
Crikey mate i dont think there is anyone trying to convince themselves that they dont need one.
Any way probably said to much sounds like your mate is on the edge of needing another therapy session.  lol

Look forward to seeing the resale value on CT in a few weeks.  :lamo:
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: craigcec on June 16, 2014, 09:55:15 AM
Come on guys.......
HC has invested in some new equipment and gone out of his way to share experience and answer questions and all you can do is have cheap childish swipes.
This type of posting is what is ruining Archeli. Ask yourself "what is your post doing to positively contribute to this thread? "
What..... suggesting someone needs therapy for sharing experience and knowledge.
What....informing HC that you think your TX is better than his.
If he wanted that TX he would all ready have it. How often is he the leader in new tech?
And so what if he sells it in two weeks time. Haven't we all benefited from him sharing hi experience? We should be saying thanks.
Time for some to grow up and think about what your writing.

Looking forward to childish responses. :)

Cheers Craig.


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: SamIAm on June 16, 2014, 10:36:48 AM
Not sure why people care if someone wants to use this radio. It's not like Mikado is forcing everyone to use it if they want to run VBars.

Don't fret, Waxie, you can still plug your spekky sats into your VBar no problem.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: casper43 on June 16, 2014, 11:19:52 AM
If it's for sale in 2 weeks I call dibs. If I wasn't working away at the moment I would have one already as well. I have 8 birds on VBAR and wouldn't change any of them and if there is something to make my vbar's more enjoyable I'm sold I will have 1 on order as soon as I get home. Look forward to hearing your thoughts as you become more comfortable with it.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: finky on June 16, 2014, 12:06:23 PM
Looks very cool HC. I can't seem to move away from spektrum but I only use vbar so I'm very curious bout this one.

Looking forward for a more detailed review if you can :)

And glad there are guys like you around that are so passionate about flying and exploring all the new things that come out.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Jody on June 16, 2014, 12:14:49 PM
Quote from: craigcec;1594052
Come on guys.......
HC has invested in some new equipment and gone out of his way to share experience and answer questions and all you can do is have cheap childish swipes.
This type of posting is what is ruining Archeli. Ask yourself "what is your post doing to positively contribute to this thread? "
What..... suggesting someone needs therapy for sharing experience and knowledge.
What....informing HC that you think your TX is better than his.
If he wanted that TX he would all ready have it. How often is he the leader in new tech?
And so what if he sells it in two weeks time. Haven't we all benefited from him sharing hi experience? We should be saying thanks.
Time for some to grow up and think about what your writing.

Looking forward to childish responses. :)

Cheers Craig.


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On behalf of the arcSTAFF thanks Craig for having the courage to call it how it is.  That is why you are part of the arcSSG group helping to steer this wonderful community in the best interests of the sport and communal discussion.

I am one that is interested in this new radio and the fact you can control the Vbar with it.  Whether it is any good or not I will be able to decide based on what Helicraze finds and shares with me through the forum.  I would hate to think that people who do go out on a liomb to try new things and then have the courtesy to share there findings with the group are not put off from doing so by other opiniated members who appear to be satisfied with non-constructive criticism of such activity which could ultimately end such activities form being shared.

Helicraze please continue to post your findings, there are certainly some of us who want to know is benefits and shortfalls from someone who actually has one!

Please members be considerate and constructive its a much better look for everyone!

Jody

arcSTAFF
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ScottE on June 16, 2014, 01:55:09 PM
I for one would like to thank HC  for his time and effort sharing with us ...  As one who is considering purchasing this product .. very grateful mate !
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 16, 2014, 07:10:52 PM
Thanks for the support guys.

Ill continue to share

I think sometimes it is misread, I often buy things with the intentions of selling, admittedly sometimes it does sneak up on me. The vbar radio i think is a keeper, ive kept my banshee and 450L for a long time! LOL

Ive always had spektrum, because back when 2.4g was announced it seemed dx7 was the one to have.
Ive never been a fan of futaba radios (love the servos) as for flying helis it seemed overly complicated for what it has to achieve, not saying i wont get used to it, but not something that interested me.  The futabas always felt nice but not sure why didnt do it for me.

The jeti seems cool but i was sure something else was around the corner as it always is in hobbyland.

The mikado radio ticks all my boxes.  Is it overpriced?  Maybe, but the time i spend flying i want the best experience possible, that in itself on one those beautiful days, is worth a lot more to me.

Happy flying everyone, hope to sneak out in next few days to try it.

My trusted sources tell me it flies amazingly well, speed is also tweaked i beleive
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: 5FIDY on June 16, 2014, 07:27:54 PM
Quote from: helicraze;1594089
Thanks for the support guys.

Ill continue to share

I think sometimes it is misread, I often buy things with the intentions of selling, admittedly sometimes it does sneak up on me. The vbar radio i think is a keeper, ive kept my banshee and 450L for a long time! LOL

Ive always had spektrum, because back when 2.4g was announced it seemed dx7 was the one to have.
Ive never been a fan of futaba radios (love the servos) as for flying helis it seemed overly complicated for what it has to achieve, not saying i wont get used to it, but not something that interested me.  The futabas always felt nice but not sure why didnt do it for me.

The jeti seems cool but i was sure something else was around the corner as it always is in hobbyland.

The mikado radio ticks all my boxes.  Is it overpriced?  Maybe, but the time i spend flying i want the best experience possible, that in itself on one those beautiful days, is worth a lot more to me.

Happy flying everyone, hope to sneak out in next few days to try it.

My trusted sources tell me it flies amazingly well, speed is also tweaked i beleive

Dude if you manage to sneak out to let's say freestylers let me know i would like to come down to see
the testing mate.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Brad on June 16, 2014, 08:13:51 PM
Looking foward to the test report HC. Bring it on.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 16, 2014, 09:30:09 PM
Some other things i notice, it shows the real time, Ive set it to talk when bank switched and timer goes off, also vibes.

Ive sharpened the sticks as much as i can, as im a thumb man.

Everything is a tree menu and easy to navigate, once you setup 1-2 helis it becomes so easy to navigate

Banshee and mostro setup, all ready to fly!  Tached on bench with bailout.

GPS sensor and mah counter out shortly, bye bye kosmik cutoff
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on June 17, 2014, 12:57:24 AM
So Michael, a couple of questions.

It sounded like most of the setup was held in the Vbar and the Tx has only minor configuration, is that info able to be backed up and coppied? Or is there like a single setup for your Tx behaviour that stays the same for all of your models, and how will that work with things like telemetry alarms you setup that may be different per model. In one of the videos they showed someone just binding to another model and flying so how does that work?

I had heard the capacity counter was going to be a separate unit like you can buy for Futaba, Jeti, etc. Do you know if they will integrate it to the Kontronik and Castle like Jlog have done so you don't have to put the sensor in line with the power circuit?

//Dennis
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 17, 2014, 07:08:53 AM
Hi i think data is stored on the rx maybe not sure??

Once bound it retains all settings
For that heli.
Power up the heli and it connects to it with those settings (no need to select model it does itself)

The counter im not sure i suspect its inline
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 21, 2014, 04:06:26 PM
Flew vcontrol with mostro today, 2 flights, feels really good and natural.
Cant say its massive difference but it feels very locked in.

Did trim flight and optimise all banks in less than 2 mins!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 22, 2014, 01:14:50 PM
Did another 5 flights today, everything feels great, subtle differences but feels really locked in and ease of adjustment is fantastic
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on June 22, 2014, 01:54:53 PM
Do the switch positions on top feel any different or further away, or harder to reach and operate... ??  Or roughly the same..?

Thx M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 22, 2014, 02:05:59 PM
They feel good, like anything takes a little to get used to.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: beans07 on June 22, 2014, 05:36:53 PM
Stop teasing Helicraze you are making me jealous.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 22, 2014, 08:03:33 PM
Beans, you and I and even my cat know your probably going to buy one!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Rctintin on June 23, 2014, 06:14:38 AM
OK guys, I owed one, but now I don't!

I sold it the moment I found out that once you bind your V-Bar to this Tx, you no longer can use either a lap top of the Field controller.

This may be ok for some, but I own 12 V-bars, and I build and setup others helis, so as soon as I bound a customers V-Bar to my Tx, he lost control of that V-bar!! We had to get an update emailed from Germany to release the locked unit!! Not a good move Mikado!!

So it's sold, and I'll carry on as I have done with my awesome Futaba 18MZ.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on June 23, 2014, 09:05:25 AM
It's an interesting assumption by Mikado that once you use Vbar control you won't ever want to not use it.. Or someone just forgot to draw up that use case :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 23, 2014, 10:27:18 AM
I think perhaps the focused on the radio and now v6 will be afterthought for pc users
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Deet on June 23, 2014, 10:46:00 AM
So what happens if you sell a vbar once its been used on your radio, will it need a special unlock code?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: tommybear on June 23, 2014, 10:59:39 AM
Quote from: Deet;1594599
So what happens if you sell a vbar once its been used on your radio, will it need a special unlock code?


It's the same as the current situation where you are buying a second hand vbar.
You will need to forward mikado the vbar serial number "print screen" or the previous owner registration email.
If you have an existing vbar control, it's a seamless transfer.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 23, 2014, 11:01:41 AM
I was certain you run the recovery file the download 5.3 and its fine
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Costas on June 23, 2014, 03:54:17 PM
Ideally the 'seller' would have their VBAR and email registered with Mikado.

Then it is a simple matter of the seller transferring their ownership to the new owner's email address.

There is a simple function which allows existing owners to transfer ownership to a new person in Mikado's VBAR registration details page.

No need to transfer any other details as it all becomes automatic if handled correctly by the original owner.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Rctintin on June 30, 2014, 10:17:28 AM
My issue was that if a customer handed me his V-bar unit to install into his heli and set it up, If I did this with V-Bar Control Tx, he can no longer connect it to a std Tx, or adjust its settings on his hand held controller. The unit is tied to my Tx!! That's crap!
So it got sold, and I'll carry on using my Futaba 18mz to setup and fly all of mine, and customers Heli's.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 30, 2014, 11:13:34 AM
They are working on v6 for pc so hold tight
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Waxie on June 30, 2014, 05:40:17 PM
Rumours have it that V6 for PC will only work on a Mikado laptop that is currently in development.  V7 will be needed though to run the app through the Mikado smartphone, the phone will however only be able to reach resellers of mikado merchandise and will also only allow web browsing on the Mikado facebook page. Unfortunately though if you upgrade to v7 you will no longer be able to use your Vbarr controller as it will not support any of the future functions.  But dont worry Vbar fans mikado will offer support for anyone that isnt happy just having there heli sitting on the shelf, support workshops and one on one counseling will be made available in the transition period.  With these future steps mikado believe they will ensure there is never going to be a RC heli crash that has a vbar onboard, no other company can make that claim. A virtual rc helli App for your Mikado phone and a shelf maintenance kit will be made available with in 12 mths for anyone missing flying there helis.

Mikado, leading the way in a safe flying future for RC.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: beans07 on June 30, 2014, 06:24:50 PM
Quote from: Waxie;1595184
Rumours have it that V6 for PC will only work on a Mikado laptop that is currently in development.  V7 will be needed though to run the app through the Mikado smartphone, the phone will however only be able to reach resellers of mikado merchandise and will also only allow web browsing on the Mikado facebook page. Unfortunately though if you upgrade to v7 you will no longer be able to use your Vbarr controller as it will not support any of the future functions.  But dont worry Vbar fans mikado will offer support for anyone that isnt happy just having there heli sitting on the shelf, support workshops and one on one counseling will be made available in the transition period.  With these future steps mikado believe they will ensure there is never going to be a RC heli crash that has a vbar onboard, no other company can make that claim. A virtual rc helli App for your Mikado phone and a shelf maintenance kit will be made available with in 12 mths for anyone missing flying there helis.

Mikado, leading the way in a safe flying future for RC.

No need to constantly bash a product because it is not your prefered product. This post absolutely nothing constructive to the thread at all.

You aren't going to buy one we get that, stop trying to disrupt this thread. There are plenty of us that are interested in this product.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 30, 2014, 06:34:48 PM
Meanwhile helicraze continues to enjoy his vcontrol
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: MADRYAN on June 30, 2014, 06:38:22 PM
Haha thats actually quite a funny post ...if you have been following mikado for years waxie is actually pretty right....but that said i think the vbar silverline and lates software is pretty bang on the money...at least mikado is being innovative....no one keeps a mobile phone longer than a year or so these days...apple keeps your balls in a vice and not many iphone users complain...mikado isnt much diff ...every product has pros and cons thats why we have forums for peoples opinions... Thumbs up waxie... Its just the mikado way.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on June 30, 2014, 06:51:25 PM
I thought it was funny :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: mr_squiggle on June 30, 2014, 07:05:00 PM
Waxie you are a funny bugger!


Citizen #186
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: MickyD on June 30, 2014, 07:35:03 PM
Awesome post waxie, funny!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Brad on June 30, 2014, 07:53:19 PM
Great post waxie. Made me laugh. I think MADRYAN nailed it on the head though.
Mikado have a bit of work to do but I'm sure they'll get it sussed and we'll all end up with another fantastic Vbar product that we can all choose or not to choose to purchase.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on June 30, 2014, 09:02:56 PM
Yup...  All I care about is, if all of this starts to drive improvements to vbar for the non control users, can't wait. How long has it been since the last update man. I know.. Ain't broke don't fix... But still
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Agusta on June 30, 2014, 11:25:45 PM
Quote from: Waxie;1595184
Rumours have it that V6 for PC will only work on a Mikado laptop that is currently in development.  V7 will be needed though to run the app through the Mikado smartphone, the phone will however only be able to reach resellers of mikado merchandise and will also only allow web browsing on the Mikado facebook page. Unfortunately though if you upgrade to v7 you will no longer be able to use your Vbarr controller as it will not support any of the future functions.  But dont worry Vbar fans mikado will offer support for anyone that isnt happy just having there heli sitting on the shelf, support workshops and one on one counseling will be made available in the transition period.  With these future steps mikado believe they will ensure there is never going to be a RC heli crash that has a vbar onboard, no other company can make that claim. A virtual rc helli App for your Mikado phone and a shelf maintenance kit will be made available with in 12 mths for anyone missing flying there helis.

Mikado, leading the way in a safe flying future for RC.

Interesting :) Maybe this is why Bert Kammerer gave VBar the permanent flick and is now exclusively flying the Vortex. LOL



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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Rctintin on July 04, 2014, 06:17:52 AM
Also, the Vortex is bloody good mate. I have 12 V-Bar's, and various others. I have the Vortex VX1n and after only a hand full of flights it's feeling very good. I may try one on one of the TDR's and see what its like in FFFF.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Agusta on July 04, 2014, 06:24:37 AM
I hear the V3 totally nails it. Vortex is the best out there apparently :))



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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on July 06, 2014, 08:36:47 AM
Managed to get my hands on a Vbar TX for the first time and I must say the quality of the sticks felt very good. Only real criticism of the overall perception of the quality was the knobs on the TX which felt like they would be prone to break and the marking for which position they were in was to that obvious.

The more interesting thing was the current sensor (pictured) which is the only model available to start with and is 16s and 300A capable. While it looks ok for 600 and upwards helis it is going to be a squeeze for 500's and maybe not practical for 450 size machines.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/06/dejuse3a.jpg)
At this stage they don't have a smaller one in the works but they didn't rule out the possibility of one in the future. The sensors can be chained together so you can have up to 3 sensors on a chain plugged into the Vbar but the current sensor needs to be last in the chain if it is being used.

//Dennis.

My mobile device and I don't always agree on auto correct choices.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on July 29, 2014, 08:28:21 PM
Got my mah sensors today. Fitted on mostro.

The awesome thing which i did not expect is that i can keep a history of packs and if i have different capacity no need to change settings just select different pack!!  Crazy.

The only thing that would have been better is if the lable was upright when wired
To a kosmik or if they used a cable from kosmik itself and no sensor.

Ive turned off capacity limit on kosmik (i hope 000 is off!) so will be really nice to land with verbal warning.

Now trying to jam one into banshee
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on August 16, 2014, 02:49:36 PM
Ive been playing more with the vcontrol radio.

The MAH sensors im having issues flying hard it looses signal, ulrich is working on this as they are not able to replicate it, it seems only in my case as i fly 14s machines and perhaps some noise from high current draw upsetting it.  For the moment ive disabled the app until they can fix this.

V control radio had a small update, a few littles things updated, more expo allowed on cyclic and misc little tricks here and there, no need to backup settings or anything.

Also flying lately has been a real joy, this radio has the most fluid connection and you can really feel the heli in its moves.

Ive still got my dx9 but i think once mikado can do the realflight 7 and planes ill sell the dx9
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on October 31, 2014, 11:41:53 AM
I have been using Futaba TX's for nearly 40 years  and have never really had an issue , has worked flawlessly for me since my 1st Futaba steel box  TX with throttle on the side and a wheel on top  , so it was pretty hard to try another brand after so many years of fun and success .

Being a huge Vbar fan and  after checking out Helicraze dial his heli in  in minutes , I had to check one out , after 2 days of learning new software i pretty much had it and was ready to go fly.My 1st flight was adjusting gains , everything had to come down from previous 5.3 settings and was a pleasure to do all during 1 set of packs  :)

next flight and  I was completely  mesmerised , i could not believe what i was feeling , i have never felt so connected to any RC machine before , it was very sim like and the TX felt great in your hands .I was already throwing the Heli around like never before ,on my 1st flight with it  :shocked!:, it was a truly awesome feeling  , i put it down to both the Radio and Vbar 6 software combined  , it was bit sad coming home and looking at my 14SG as a plank radio and sim machine , but i'm In Vbar Control now LOL :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: DanRC on October 31, 2014, 01:06:06 PM
the v-bar control will work with neXt, heli-x and aerofly RC7
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: beans07 on October 31, 2014, 02:12:05 PM
I had the same thoughts Fasster. I talked with Helicraze and other owners about it and we all agreed on what you are saying. So easy to dial heli's in and with v6 the tail and cyclic feel nicer and the gov has been tweaked a touch as well. The Vstabi guys are listening to what changes and improvements people are requesting and are implementing the changes.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on October 31, 2014, 02:14:01 PM
Is v6 available to normal users without vbar control?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: tommybear on October 31, 2014, 02:45:38 PM
Quote from: rchelijc;1602578
Is v6 available to normal users without vbar control?

V6 is the sofware upgrade to allow VBARs to talk VBC.
Without VBC - V6 is off limit.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on October 31, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: tommybear;1602579
V6 is the sofware upgrade to allow VBARs to talk VBC.
Without VBC - V6 is off limit.

I spoke to the Mikado guys at HeliMasters and they said that v6 will be released for everyone but it was not a priority for them. He estimated Sept or October for release but I am guessing that slipped given we are at the end of October now.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on October 31, 2014, 04:36:27 PM
Not the same, but reminds me of the FTDI debacle..

Except this time it's legitimate users..
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: tommybear on October 31, 2014, 04:44:45 PM
Quote from: Thunder Fighter;1602582
I spoke to the Mikado guys at HeliMasters and they said that v6 will be released for everyone but it was not a priority for them. He estimated Sept or October for release but I am guessing that slipped given we are at the end of October now.

//Dennis.


At the moment, the only way to get V6 is with VBC.

Maybe they will open up to non VBC users down the track as per Dennis's post.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on October 31, 2014, 05:26:33 PM
Quote from: tommybear;1602584
At the moment, the only way to get V6 is with VBC.

Maybe they will open up to non VBC users down the track as per Dennis's post.

Lol that's like saying in order to upgrade your iOS devices, you need to buy a NEW dongle, which you absolutely do not need, and costs twice as much as your iPhone.

In case no one followed up on the FTDI thing, well, they came out with a new software driver (automatically updated on most people's machines) that would brick any FTDI chip in any device out there if it thinks the chip is counterfeit. After public outcry, they pulled it off.

This is worse - it's Mikado slapping their big long hairy and sloppy one in the faces of LEGITIMATE users, and what do you know... we suck it down like a momma's t!t..
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: mr_squiggle on October 31, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
Sounds like you're a bit upset about that rchelijc. If it's fancy & new then why can't Mikado hold the version as "special" to VBar Control users, it's a legitimate business tactic & it's how the commercial world works.
I wouldn't be surprised if the the VBC users are always one version up on the rest of us. It's part of the product placement in their lineup.
As a consumer you have a choice to stay or go elsewhere. Personally I'm very happy with my VBars and I like how they fly so I will stay.


Citizen #186
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on October 31, 2014, 05:52:54 PM
I don't just like how they fly, I LOVE IT! Of course I'm staying, and while it's rude to talk with mouth full, I do try to voice my issue while sucking down too.

However, legitimacy does not make it immune from being viewed as distasteful.

Here's an example: Imagine you like Colgate, but you prefer Oral-B toothbrush. One day, Colgate came up with awesome benefits to your teeth, but decides to inhibit you from using their toothpaste, unless it detects a chip in Colgate Toothbrush Control.

Yes legitimate business tactic. How long before you think before every news station utterly destroys that company?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: bathmagic on October 31, 2014, 06:27:27 PM
Maybe label it "halal" and we can all fund the takeover!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: mr_squiggle on October 31, 2014, 06:33:51 PM
Quote from: rchelijc;1602593
I don't just like how they fly, I LOVE IT! Of course I'm staying, and while it's rude to talk with mouth full, I do try to voice my issue while sucking down too.

However, legitimacy does not make it immune from being viewed as distasteful.

Here's an example: Imagine you like Colgate, but you prefer Oral-B toothbrush. One day, Colgate came up with awesome benefits to your teeth, but decides to inhibit you from using their toothpaste, unless it detects a chip in Colgate Toothbrush Control.

Yes legitimate business tactic. How long before you think before every news station utterly destroys that company?


The analogy I'd use would be that VBC is like the Calais and the VBar is like a Berlina or an Omega. Your analogy is a bit extreme I reckon, it's not like Mikado are holding out on the core product, but they are restricting the latest & greatest to a readily available product, it's just more expensive.
As for "every news station utterly destroying the company", you've got to be kidding haven't you. RC helis aren't that important to mankind, it's a hobby.
As I said before, vote with your feet.


Citizen #186
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on October 31, 2014, 07:48:16 PM
Quote from: mr_squiggle;1602595
The analogy I'd use would be that VBC is like the Calais and the VBar is like a Berlina or an Omega. Your analogy is a bit extreme I reckon, it's not like Mikado are holding out on the core product, but they are restricting the latest & greatest to a readily available product, it's just more expensive.
As for "every news station utterly destroying the company", you've got to be kidding haven't you. RC helis aren't that important to mankind, it's a hobby.
As I said before, vote with your feet.


Citizen #186
My point exactly - rc helis are not that important, hence shenanigans happen. Look at the FTDI incident.. No really just google it..

My analogy is not extreme. I thought every vbar silver pro out there can be upgraded to 6?

And not just connectivity to vbar control, but also additional flight improvements that has NOTHING to do with the controller.

And your analogy may be a bit off.  Vbar control is not a Calais. It is a steering wheel with bells and whistles, but still a steering wheel. A proper analogy is that Holden is restricting you from driving their new Calais unless you buy this steering wheel, which just so happens to cost twice as much as the Calais.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: mr_squiggle on October 31, 2014, 07:49:52 PM
Well, I think we'll just agree to disagree then.
Happy flying with your VBars, I know I will be enjoying mine!


Citizen #186
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on October 31, 2014, 07:57:24 PM
Definitely. I'm all fpvfactory mariner and multis for now. But it'll be a sad fate if I see some poor guy strolling into AFF with helis, multis and 2 transmitters in tow :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: mr_squiggle on October 31, 2014, 07:59:23 PM
Hah hah, that's the reason I haven't bought a VBC, I fly planks & multis too.


Citizen #186
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on November 01, 2014, 09:07:39 PM
I dont know why so many hesitate to use the vbc radio.

So many people have more than 2 radios for no good reason im aware of.

Price, well aside from the heli, a radio is the first thing you grab and i bet you spend more on other crap and the radio last for years. So what less than $1 a day to own it.

Or they forcing us? No they are not. Seems like saying i dont have a laptop or computer and to use vbar i need to buy one????

Didnt hear cries when apple release a new product and all the old accessories dont fit.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: mr_squiggle on November 01, 2014, 09:09:13 PM
Good point, I have two transmitters.


Citizen #186
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on November 01, 2014, 11:15:32 PM
Quote from: helicraze;1602631
I dont know why so many hesitate to use the vbc radio.

So many people have more than 2 radios for no good reason im aware of.

Price, well aside from the heli, a radio is the first thing you grab and i bet you spend more on other crap and the radio last for years. So what less than $1 a day to own it.

...


I don't really see myself spending and rotating rc gear at the rate you do :) So more than likely, we both have different perspectives on what and how to spend on this hobby.

Let me put it this way... I got the itch to spend recently, vbar control or cheaper with: FPV Factory Mariner, the latest PAris v5r3 board, extra Mobius + water proof case + accessories. Oh yeah, a can of plasti-dip. Easy choice for me.


Quote from: helicraze;1602631


Or they forcing us? No they are not. Seems like saying i dont have a laptop or computer and to use vbar i need to buy one????

...


Recently it seems people are really misinterpreting what I'm saying... maybe I'm starting to lose my ability to communicate clearly so I'll try to re-clarify.

What you're saying does NOT represent the situation. The situation is, most people already have a PC / laptop, or can borrow a friend's to update. There's no blocking there. It doesn't prevent you from using a friend's laptop from updating. Yes, you can do that today with vbar to get it to 5.3.4 or whatever the latest v5 version is.

I repeat - ANY LAPTOP! Your friend's, your mom's, your BFF's... ANY LAPTOP. It diesn't have to belong to you. You don't need to own one. You don't need to spend money to get a useless one on ebay that takes an hour to boot up.


Mikado however, have deliberately blocked an existing update route to v6.

Many of us have Tx'es that are firmware upgradeable, correct? So your Jetis, Futabas, Spektrums, Hitecs...  at least the ones out over the last 2 years. Correct? And upgradeable through USB, or through an SD card, or something similar.

I repeat - you can use your friend's laptop, your auntie's SD card, and your grandma's USB cable. To update your Tx.

Can you imagine if the latest firmware update for your Tx, was prevented unless you bought a new vendor's ESC. I repeat... ESC aka Electronic Speed Controller

Yes, it's that stupid. I'll say it again - it is that stupid.

Because that ESC has nothing to do with your Tx. Why should you be prevented from adding beneficial features to your Tx, because you don't own that ESC?

Similar to VBC having nothing to do with control loop improvements within vbar. I don't care about dialling in my heli in 5 mins. It's a once off activity, I can live with doing it once taking 20 mins. However, why should every vbar user be prevented from benefitting from control loop improvements which they paid for, with Pro, just because they don't want to use the vendor's Tx?


Quote from: helicraze;1602631


Didnt hear cries when apple release a new product and all the old accessories dont fit.


Maybe not here, but where I work, people have left the entire Apple ecosystem in disgust at the practice. It's not like these people can't afford it as well, some earning 6-7 figure salaries. Sometimes it isn't the money, it's the principle.

Anyway Apple would have already accounted for these losses way back prior.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: MadBird on November 02, 2014, 12:35:55 AM
Dude, you will send yourself to an early grave getting upset over this stuff. Take a chill pill, it is just a bloody hobby... Sit back for a second and ask yourself wtf you are carrying on about? I repeat, it is a HOBBY.

I am sure when the Mikado engineers have time to develop and release a 'V6' firmware for the non VBC connected units then they will do so. There is no conspiracy, they are just concentrating on developing a new technology to push their company into the next phase of the hobby.  

Everyone needs to realise that in the hobby market we are very lucky that electronics manufacturers generally release newer firmware versions free of charge. It's probably for this reason though that every punter thinks it is their god given right to have access to such updates whenever they are released and expect them to work for purposes that they were not intended for. The simple matter of fact in this case is that the firmware has been written to turn a normal Vbar FBL unit into a VBC FBL unit, nothing more nothing less. IMO it is now effectively a totally new device that is just using the same hardware, so if you want to use the 'new device' then you need to run it with the VBC, simple.

No point in whinging about it, life is too short, just go and fly the bejesus out of whatever you have now because none of us know if we're going to be here tomorrow....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: rchelijc on November 02, 2014, 02:05:22 AM
Thanks madbird, sound advice. No, I'm not upset. Never have been in any posts on any forum. However it sounds that way because I've had to punctuate my sentences, to make it clearer. Apparently what I'm discussing must be a complex topic cos people left right and centre are clearly misunderstanding my points :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: MadBird on November 02, 2014, 05:48:46 PM
Fair enough then. Happy flying dude!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: finky on January 03, 2015, 02:01:01 PM
Have many people moved to vbar control and if so how are you finding them compared to what you were using before? oh and what were you using before?
cheers
len
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on January 03, 2015, 03:28:36 PM
Me!! Still have dx9 for 450 and sim and jets but will be sold shortly as the sim adap and plane stuff is out soon.

Its awesome more features than many realise
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on January 03, 2015, 05:19:23 PM
M, what do you mean by the sim adapter and plane stuff is out soon..??  Have you seen some more product pre-release info somewhere..?  Cheers mate....
M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on January 03, 2015, 05:52:16 PM
Sim adaptor for realflight is in testing and also plane vbAr is testing

Just whispers
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on January 03, 2015, 07:44:35 PM
Quote from: helicraze;1605804
Sim adaptor for realflight is in testing and also plane vbAr is testing

Just whispers

Interesting...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: hypnotoad on January 06, 2015, 02:56:00 PM
Quote from: helicraze;1605804
Sim adaptor for realflight is in testing and also plane vbAr is testing

Just whispers

To be honest when flying planks, I don't want to have the stabilisation, hopefully it's just a reciever and not stabilisation.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on January 06, 2015, 07:29:04 PM
Better whip off your tail gyro and vbar

Im sure many will adapt to it
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on January 06, 2015, 08:51:09 PM
Had my first flight with a plane fitted with the ASX stabilisation today, while it was a bit weird it certainly did make it easier and enjoyable in the wind with one of the little UMX models.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on January 08, 2015, 02:24:54 PM
Has anyone tried the 300A 16s battery sensor module, to track battery voltage and consumption on the telemetry....?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: beans07 on January 08, 2015, 08:46:30 PM
If you are talking about he U/I sensor that has been around for 6 months yes I have been using it. I reckon it is great. I fly to capacity rather than timer now and every 10% I get a voice telling me 90% remaining, 80% remaining etc.. It has helped me get longer flight times and I am not hurting the batteries. You can also set switch's to tell you certain telemetry messages like, mah used, amps, watts etc.. When you land and unplug you get a summary on the screen which tells you flight time, mah used, watts, etc.. I use the screenshot feature to take a picture of it to keep as reference to how my batteries are performing. There is some newly remastered logging and battery data features. You can now view logs off the radio without plugging into PC. I was looking before at my battery logs and can view the last 10 or so flights (I have removed the logs prior) and compare them. Quite good.

Mikado are implementing a strategy of listening and giving what the customer is asking for. They have done this for a while in terms of updating logo heli issues, but are really focused on this VBC with implementing a lot of features people are asking for.

I am very happy with mine and can't see me going back to a normal radio for helis, it's just so easy to tune and tweak as needed. I currently still use other radios for planes and multi's.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on January 08, 2015, 09:10:03 PM
That's pretty cool beans...  I didn't know the half of it... Impressive...  I do wish I could get my hands on one some time for a play and a feel...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: beans07 on January 08, 2015, 10:37:25 PM
Definitely worth a look if you ever get a chance. Have a good look through the vstabi site through the manuals, there is quite a bit of detail there now. They are just releasing New battery ID discs system that is scanned as soon as you load your battery into your heli and a GPS sensor for speed etc.. The sim compatibility solution is just around the corner. There has also been thorough testing by the engineers for a bailout as well if that floats your boat. It's not released yet and Mikado have stopped giving dates but from what I have heard it's very promising.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on January 09, 2015, 07:49:30 AM
Its the most innovAtive radio full stop
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ScottE on April 03, 2015, 06:47:14 AM
Finally joined tge vbar control revolution .. big thanks to len & andrew for lettinv me fondle / dribble over theirs at heatwave . Very impressed .. just gotta sort out the apps .
Looks like im going to have to upgrade my poor old black classic units - no sat ports for sensors so ill have to use my blue mini atm as I have the u/I sensor .
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on April 03, 2015, 08:22:57 AM
I dont use any sensors so optional i guess
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Post by: ScottE on April 04, 2015, 07:59:09 AM
Thought I'd give one a go . & its a good excuse to upgrade to a new neo when they hit the shops . Going to try out Vplane with the old classic
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on April 04, 2015, 08:13:47 AM
you'll love it Scott , loving mine more and more every time i use it  , Vplane is being released tomorrow :)
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Post by: Waxie on April 04, 2015, 08:36:27 AM
They are definitly looking more appealing as new features are being added.  I may pick one up with a neo when released.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on April 04, 2015, 08:56:10 AM
Hey, does the Vcontrol radio log the telemetry data, so that you can review it after you land, and/or download it when you get home from the field...?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: pbnz on April 07, 2015, 11:16:11 PM
So does anyone in Australia have one in stock at the moment? If not, where are people sourcing them from??!!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ScottE on April 08, 2015, 05:16:51 AM
Quote from: wizza;1609088
Hey, does the Vcontrol radio log the telemetry data, so that you can review it after you land, and/or download it when you get home from the field...?
From what I can see it looks like the current sensor logs - habnt had a chance to fly it yet ... between easter & kids for school holidays lol .
Will try a dry run on the ground wizza
Quote from: pbnz;1609249
So does anyone in Australia have one in stock at the moment? If not, where are people sourcing them from??!!
Got mine from perthrc mate might have been one of the last in stock
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on April 08, 2015, 06:27:53 AM
I also had a quick browse around, and with of PerthRC being out of stock, I couldn't find any in Australia....
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Post by: wizza on April 08, 2015, 06:33:24 AM
ScottE,  how do you find the sticks/gimbles...?  Ok..?  Magic..?  Smoothest you've ever tried..?   Did Mikado put high quality gimbles in the Vcontrol...?   Would be nice to hold one and feel it in your hands.  This is the trouble with the modern times and Internet shopping, and all of our Hobby Shops closing their doors.....
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Post by: chucka on April 08, 2015, 05:58:34 PM
Has anyone bought there vbar control radio and stuff directly off mikado model helicopters site ??
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Post by: helicraze on April 08, 2015, 06:51:33 PM
Mikado asia i use awesome!!!

Mikado eu is fine as well
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Post by: chucka on April 09, 2015, 10:39:38 AM
Hi all sorry if these questions have already been asked , just trying to get in the loop ;)
Do they all come standard mode2 then have to be converted ?
Do the different model numbers just relate to the colour or do they have differnt hardware/firware ?
Is there anything i should be aware of or steer clear of?
Thanx guys
Cheers Chucka :):)
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Post by: Fasster on April 09, 2015, 11:01:42 AM
Quote from: chucka;1609311
Hi all sorry if these questions have already been asked , just trying to get in the loop ;)
Do they all come standard mode2 then have to be converted ?
Do the different model numbers just relate to the colour or do they have differnt hardware/firware ?
Is there anything i should be aware of or steer clear of?
Thanx guys
Cheers Chucka :):)

yes i believe they come in mode 2 , very easy to convert to any mode

different model numbers relate to combo's  , there is only 2 colour options available atm  for the VBC  ,black and transparent , there will be chrome and gold available soon .

only thing you need to steer clear of is anything that is stopping you from purchasing one .
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Post by: chucka on April 09, 2015, 12:02:45 PM
Cheers thanx Fasster :)
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Post by: Grubscrew on April 13, 2015, 09:00:03 PM
Quote from: wizza;1609252
ScottE,  how do you find the sticks/gimbles...?  Ok..?  Magic..?  Smoothest you've ever tried..?   Did Mikado put high quality gimbles in the Vcontrol...?   Would be nice to hold one and feel it in your hands.  This is the trouble with the modern times and Internet shopping, and all of our Hobby Shops closing their doors.....


Wouldn't mind hearing an answer to this question as well. This radio looks the goods! :D
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Post by: helicraze on April 13, 2015, 09:29:25 PM
Faaaarking lovely lol
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Post by: ScottE on April 14, 2015, 08:02:20 AM
Quote from: Grubscrew;1609442
Wouldn't mind hearing an answer to this question as well. This radio looks the goods! :D
Sorry guys been busy with kids on holidays for easter .. havnt had a chance to fly with it yet but the gimbals feel very similar to the 14sg & it feels like a quality radio .
Hopefully ill get some air time this weekend .
I even have a vplane setup - e converted lancair
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Post by: wizza on April 14, 2015, 10:41:10 AM
Thanks Scott.  Will be interested to hear your feedback after you have flown with the Vcontrol.  Also interested to hear your comments about the Vplane, again after you've flown with it and got a feel for it....  Looks pretty insane...  :)    

Cheers for now...

M
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Post by: helicraze on April 14, 2015, 01:51:09 PM
Apparently with vplane a cool trick is go to knifeedge cut throttle and watch the plane drop without deviation!!! Haha cool
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Post by: finky on April 17, 2015, 12:32:19 AM
mmm champagne colour is now out, 200 euro more then standard version.
Enjoying my vbar control. Its been very hard to move away from my old spektrum dx7, but the more i use the radio the better it gets. If you only use vbar then its a great radio to have. Im sure the other brands will follow soon.
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Post by: helicraze on April 17, 2015, 06:37:02 AM
200 euro more my gosh is it gold lol
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Post by: wizza on April 17, 2015, 06:37:22 AM
I see on Mikado asia at the moment, there is an offer for a free TX case (MIK4911) with the Vcontrol black or clear models..  Don't mind the champagne colour, but cant say the clear is doing it for me....  I do wonder with the champagne colour if the paint/colour will wear off around where the hands grip the radio.  Have seen this over the years on some radios....   Guess time will tell...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on April 17, 2015, 07:27:44 AM
200 euro extra for gold color with switch rubbers and alloy dials and a rubber strip on the bar .
That's crazy , I bought rubber covers for the switches from JR. for around 10 bucks added a piece of silicon tubing to handle to stop it sliding on the table , so your paying 190 euro for an aluminium dial and gold cover , that just doesn't seem right , must be a mistake.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on April 17, 2015, 08:12:50 AM
I did notice the aluminium dials on the gold, and thought that looked a bit higher class....  Mind you, that opinion is only based on seeing web photos of the two models, and haven't actually seen one (a black) in the flesh (yet)....
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Post by: DanRC on April 17, 2015, 08:46:57 AM
200 euro extra. wow.. guess its good though, people will still buy it and extra profits go back into r&d.
I ordered a black one from PerthRC yesterday, $832, worked out cheaper than mikado asia or europe
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Post by: DanRC on April 17, 2015, 09:32:53 AM
Controller just arrived, good service from PerthRC :)
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Post by: Grubscrew on April 17, 2015, 10:28:41 AM
Are they back in stock @ PerthRC?

Must. Buy.

Also agreed - price at PerthRC is quite good given overseas prices. Black is the go, the see through one is a but fugly :/
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Post by: ScottE on April 17, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
Hanging out to give mine a go ... looks like rain all weekend .... . 8-(
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: DanRC on April 17, 2015, 10:38:58 AM
Quote from: Grubscrew;1609588
Are they back in stock @ PerthRC?

They were... lol ;)

First impressions... the build quality is not as good as the JR XG14, but we are talking probably a 5-10% subjective difference.

The gimbals are very smooth, but feel more plastic/hollow vs the XG14, the XG14 has machined aluminium gimbal surrounds/mounts - so they are mega solid, if you hit the end of travel there is no flex or give.

Its probably comparable to the Futaba 14sg - which is still a great, well built radio.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on April 17, 2015, 12:00:26 PM
Quote from: DanRC;1609590
.... The gimbals are very smooth, but feel more plastic/hollow vs the XG14, the XG14 has machined aluminium gimbal surrounds/mounts - so they are mega solid, if you hit the end of travel there is no flex or give....

Dan, that's probably not surprising to hear, as the XG14 had the metal chassis gimbals from the 12X, if I'm not mistaken.  Thank you for the feedback, as I was wondering this myself, not having had a chance to feel a Vcontrol myself.  That said, I thought I read somewhere that Mikado contracted a "Japanese" company to supply the gimbals for the Vcontrol, so there is a fair guess who may make them, and in that case, they shouldn't be too bad....

Can you mechanically limit the collective/throttle throw, to a shorter travel..???
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Post by: Grubscrew on April 17, 2015, 12:07:31 PM
Won't be hard to be better than my old DX9
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: DanRC on April 17, 2015, 12:09:20 PM
Not sure about mechanically limiting the throw, but I just finished a good 30min session in heli-x, and damn, the gimbals are VERY smooth.

The more I use it, the more I like it, very well thought out. Another feature below you don't hear much about


Near field detection:

VBar Control automatically detects whether radio and receiver are in close proximity or not. This helps avoiding near field issues, like temporarily broken radio link or overdrive effects, and improves reliability when binding a receiver or when turning on the model. A N in a circle superimposing the signal strength-bars indicates near field conditions are detected and that this feature is active.

(http://i.imgur.com/dnvn49B.png)
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Post by: wizza on April 20, 2015, 06:01:26 PM
Pretty cool stuff Dan....  Pitty Perth don't have stock.  They must have ordered one unit, and she went as quick as it came, by the looks of it.....
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Post by: Grubscrew on April 20, 2015, 06:20:43 PM
That feature should help for those times you go to plug your model in with the radio right next to it and it just never connects!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Les on April 20, 2015, 07:51:47 PM
Quote from: wizza;1609735
Pretty cool stuff Dan....  Pitty Perth don't have stock.  They must have ordered one unit, and she went as quick as it came, by the looks of it.....
Contact Perth RC via email or phone, :wink:
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Post by: finky on April 20, 2015, 07:54:34 PM
i ordered from perth rc and asked them to change to mode 1 for me. All very quickly done and great service.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on April 20, 2015, 09:00:17 PM
Sudden rush for vbc?? Lol

Once you get one you wont go back!

Lets compare on my most fantastic purchases of my time.

Switching to kontronik esc, switching to vbar, buying a german heli. Bang for buck vbc has given me the most pleasure
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Post by: pbnz on April 20, 2015, 09:59:32 PM
Perth RC should have stock in mid next week from what I can gather talking with Brian on Saturday. Will let you know next week when mine arrives from him :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: DanRC on April 21, 2015, 08:04:13 AM
Vbar Neo rescue in action http://youtu.be/ZZDo17xx_3Y
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on April 21, 2015, 01:06:00 PM
Thats pretty cool Dan....  :onya:
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Waxie on April 22, 2015, 09:49:52 AM
Looks good, just let go of the sticks hit a switch and as soon as you move the stick again it deactivates. Way better than the MSH self level.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on May 01, 2015, 07:59:57 AM
Vbar NEO released :), looking forward to seeing how much better it is .

only the Neo with RX is available atm , NEO without RX coming soon
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Post by: Jody on May 01, 2015, 08:02:19 AM
I don't think it will be "better" regarding flight just better for v control and those wanting redundancy in sensors.

Unless I missed something


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on May 01, 2015, 08:07:22 AM
new hardware , new software , you'd want it to be an improvement on the current series , going to Vbar 6 was a big step up IMO , might not be as big a jump now from 6 to NEO  but im sure there will be a  noticeable difference .
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Jody on May 01, 2015, 08:09:01 AM
Ok interesting I love 5.3 for my flying however interested in what people think..


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Post by: DanRC on May 01, 2015, 08:12:42 AM
Quote from: Fasster;1610041
Vbar NEO released :), looking forward to seeing how much better it is .

only the Neo with RX is available atm , NEO without RX coming soon


Just placed my order... lol
got a bit trigger happy, battery ID sensor and wireless sim found their way onto the checkout


new video of the rescue function, he goes through several moves

https://youtu.be/oTsWes2M4XM
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Post by: Grubscrew on May 01, 2015, 10:45:58 AM
Wish my piggybank would fill up faster!!!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on May 01, 2015, 11:18:29 PM
The vcontrol radio like a lot of mikado products is now the standard all are compared to.

Dont resist, buy it and enjoy
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: DanRC on May 03, 2015, 03:34:16 PM
Rumour has it Vcopter (multi-copter) firmware is in the works, and a vcontrol app to get data straight from Kontronik Esc's
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on May 03, 2015, 07:03:22 PM
That's quite interesting, and a great move, integrating Kontronik to the Vcontrol.  Would be great if they can cater for all the Jive models, and the Kosmik's, naturally...  There was some talk of this on Heli Nation this week as well....
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Post by: chucka on May 09, 2015, 03:12:00 AM
I did it ordered and shipped today from perthrc ;)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on May 09, 2015, 07:34:28 AM
Has perth rc got any neos?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: chucka on May 09, 2015, 07:44:42 AM
I dont think so there not listed on there site ...
Mikado asia appears to have them in stock.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Les on May 09, 2015, 08:56:47 AM
Don't just go by their website, ring or email them.
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Post by: Grubscrew on May 12, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
Just ordered mine from PerthRC! Can't freaking wait! :D Got the transmitter case with it too, very handy, already cut to fit the radio and plenty of space for charger and a few bits and bobs. Also asked PerthRC if they could convert to Mode 1 for me so if they say yes again that's a big thumbs up for service :)
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Post by: Waxie on May 12, 2015, 08:13:10 PM
Some of the wraps you can get for the controller look good.
https://www.facebook.com/teamninjawraps

(http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx241/blaiz4/GOPR0261_zpsfishd3bm.jpg)
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Post by: DanRC on May 12, 2015, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Grubscrew;1610407
Just ordered mine from PerthRC! Can't freaking wait! :D Got the transmitter case with it too, very handy, already cut to fit the radio and plenty of space for charger and a few bits and bobs. Also asked PerthRC if they could convert to Mode 1 for me so if they say yes again that's a big thumbs up for service :)


Nice one Matt!

The App Store and auto update through vcontrol manager are pretty slick.

The Radio charges really quick - looking forward to your thoughts.
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Post by: Waxie on May 19, 2015, 07:23:51 PM
The new v controll looks very familiar..................:silly:

(http://shop.mikado-heli.de/k_mikado/prodpic/VBar-Control-Sender-mit-RX-Satellite-champagner-04887_b_0.JPG)


(http://icongal.com/gallery/image/18312/glorious_golden_bender.png)
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Post by: helicraze on May 19, 2015, 08:35:01 PM
Haha bender

Where is his cigar?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Grubscrew on May 21, 2015, 06:26:26 PM
So ordered my Vbar radio from PerthRC last week. Haven't seen the order go through but just got a call from Brian who said the radio will be posted tomorrow and that they are happy to convert to mode 1 for me. He apologised for the delay as he has been quite unwell. I won't divulge why for the sake of privacy but all I can say is given the circumstances the service shown by Brian in this case is absolutely above and beyond, especially with him converting my radio to mode 1 as well. If anyone is looking for a Vbar radio I very much recommend you get it from PerthRC! :) Big thankyou to Brian and I hope you recover quickly.
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Post by: chucka on May 24, 2015, 01:04:53 PM
Thanx all who recommended the vcontrol i love it:):) there where a few problems in the beginning but we got that sorted and now after learning the new v6 tune i love it ;)
The gov makes heaps more power than 5.3 i have almost halved my settings and still getting the same power (logged)
And the heads heaps more  locked ..

My advice to anyone converting to the vcontrol forget all your 5.3 settings and retune by feel and reaction

Thanx all:):)
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Post by: Waxie on May 24, 2015, 02:59:50 PM
Sounds good, I need to bite the bullet and just get one.  I don't mind the look of the plastic fantasting clear version, something a little different.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ScottE on May 24, 2015, 03:06:30 PM
Finally got to fly with my vbc as chucka has said .. forget everything  & start with a low gov gain  .
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: chucka on May 25, 2015, 02:08:54 PM
Hi all is there a way to copy a bank from one model to another ??

I could only see an option to copy a complete model file...

Cheers
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Grubscrew on May 25, 2015, 04:51:08 PM
Interesting to hear that we'll need to retune from 5.3 Chucka! Good heads up :) Mine arrived today so time to play when I get home!!! :D
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on May 25, 2015, 05:42:34 PM
If anyone need vcontrol rx i got spare for sale cheap

Hope you all enjoying it
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Post by: ScottE on May 25, 2015, 06:04:43 PM
Thnx Michael illl take it
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Grubscrew on May 25, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
Dammit too late :(
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ScottE on May 26, 2015, 09:43:42 AM
About time I won one lol !!!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on May 28, 2015, 01:47:17 PM
:)


(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn90/iillusionss/b3e8282de26221d7a6639e172bd2c02a_zpsatvwohjq.jpg) (http://s302.photobucket.com/user/iillusionss/media/b3e8282de26221d7a6639e172bd2c02a_zpsatvwohjq.jpg.html)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ScottE on May 28, 2015, 01:54:15 PM
That green case looks sik  .. like my old xbox  8-)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Grubscrew on May 28, 2015, 03:42:43 PM
Why the sale of your Vbar Radio Andrew?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: PHANTMXR6 on May 28, 2015, 03:52:53 PM
He said why in his ad.
Bought as a spare for the sim and doesn't use it.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Waxie on May 28, 2015, 04:35:20 PM
You will likely see others pop up for sale soon due to the release of a blinged out version.  I can't see people letting them go cheaply though :uhuh:
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on May 28, 2015, 06:13:16 PM
Yeh, Andrew really like to keep his things new, he has used his original radio a lot, but this one is new and of course he cant resist a new color LOL
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on May 28, 2015, 07:01:47 PM
Quote from: helicraze;1610902
......a new color LOL
. Arrrr..  All makes sense now...   Lol...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on May 28, 2015, 07:41:28 PM
yes sir LOL

Id like a shiney one as well, but it wont make any difference while i fly so meh
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: DanRC on May 28, 2015, 08:34:32 PM
Vinyl wrap
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: finky on May 29, 2015, 01:51:04 AM
Looks like Kyle Stacy is now flying vbar control with neo on all helis


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Grubscrew on May 30, 2015, 11:36:10 PM
Got my Vbar Radio all set up now though haven't flown Vbar 6.0 yet. Radio has a really nice feel to it, nice and large and square in the hands. Plastic but not a cheap plastic feel like Spektrum, a fair bit classier. Menu and screens are also easy and logical to work through doesn't really take long to get used to them. Love the apps and the ability to turn them on/off once loaded onto the radio. Binding is now easier than pairing a device over bluetooth! Model connects super quick once powered up, live vibe analysis, governor rpm, etc in the palm of your hands. Oh and the best bit - comes with a mini control radio keyring :D

Love it :D
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 06, 2015, 06:27:47 PM
Ordered a couple of neos. Cant wait to try these
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on June 06, 2015, 07:25:23 PM
I hear the non-Vcontrol version of Neo is delayed due to piracy (copying) concerns already....  Damn...  Looking forward to trying Neo as well....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ScottE on June 07, 2015, 05:40:01 AM
Great to hear .. rescue enabled ? Im interested in this option and your opinion  cheers
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on June 07, 2015, 10:39:56 AM
Guys spend the extra 20 euro for express shipping if you are ordering direct  , i order 2 NEO's and unfortunately went for the cheaper shipping option this time and have been waiting almost 5 weeks now .
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 07, 2015, 10:49:19 AM
I went mikado asia ems service
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: DanRC on June 07, 2015, 12:27:45 PM
I did the 20 euro extra and it was 4-5 working days / 5 weeks is a bit excessive
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: servo on June 10, 2015, 11:16:44 PM
Wheres the best place to by a v control radio?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: DanRC on June 10, 2015, 11:22:59 PM
Perth Rc are great to deal with
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: servo on June 10, 2015, 11:24:32 PM
Thanks dan will have a look now :)

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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: servo on June 10, 2015, 11:32:29 PM
Out of stock :(
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Post by: DanRC on June 11, 2015, 11:52:08 AM
Quote from: servo;1611228
Out of stock :(
They get it back in pretty quickly or sometimes website is not accurate ;)
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Post by: servo on June 12, 2015, 12:15:48 AM
Cheers mate :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 17, 2015, 09:12:55 PM
Hope to try my neo with bailout in next few days. Ill be sure to post back my thoughts
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on June 18, 2015, 05:01:25 PM
is perth rc going to be stocking all the vcontrol stuff?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: servo on June 18, 2015, 10:31:11 PM
I hope so

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Post by: finky on June 26, 2015, 02:19:34 PM
Perth rc now have vbar control and neo in stock
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on June 26, 2015, 02:36:24 PM
Quote from: finky;1611690
Perth rc now have vbar control and neo in stock

They received four units (NEO) from Germany, and three left now....  :)

VControl Sats also back in stock at PerthRC...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ChopsyWA on July 08, 2015, 01:03:38 AM
Quote from: helicraze;1611454
Hope to try my neo with bailout in next few days. Ill be sure to post back my thoughts


Hey Helicraze, had a chance to try the Neo yet? :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on July 08, 2015, 07:07:15 AM
Hi chopsy,  I tried out NEO for the first time on the weekend.  Wanted to get flying on it and try the bailout rescue.  All worked as advertised first time! But it was pretty wiered taking your hands off the sticks and flicking that switch.  But work it did.  I did the level cwlibration on the bench, just to be sure it was set, and default settings.  I linked the rescue mode to the long spring loaded switch on the top rear RHS.  I also set beginner mode, but couldn't find  anything on how it works.  After some trial and error on the bench and some head scratching, I found that pulling that switch against the spring activates rescue, and flicking it to the rear position activates beginner mode, until you flick that switch back to centre.  In beginner mode, you can set the max bank angle and the heli wont go past that nor flip or roll, and if you take hands off the sticks it self levels.  Pretty cool and wish I had that years ago....  the NEO locked right in and felt very stable, as you would expect.  Had to tune the tail gain and up the piro rate a little, and as expected now, that was all done in the first flight/battery With the VControl.  Only now do I appreciate how easy tuning is on a VC radio...

Anyhow, just a couple of comments and a bit of feedback.  Chat you soon mate.

Mark R
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: DanRC on July 08, 2015, 08:14:57 PM
The non v-link neo's are now available from Mikado... Must have finished locking down their software
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on July 08, 2015, 09:26:13 PM
Im testing my neo tommorow

I heard the non v link used a dongle with a pin prick for blood dna sampling to make it secure
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on July 08, 2015, 11:09:05 PM
Does anyone know if they are going to do a V6 software for the Blue/Silver Vbars without Vcontrol or is getting the Neo the only way to get V6 for us? When I spoke to them last year they said it was coming but I haven't heard anything since about it.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on July 09, 2015, 11:09:57 AM
I doubt it. As i understand the v6 is more about being vcontrol platform. Its not providing improvements such as v4 to v5 if you know what i mean.

I understand also v6.1 needs the processing power of a neo and sensors.

I just flew my neo, rescue is flawless however from inverted its interesting as you dont really know where the tail will end up. I would have liked tail in always. As if you loose orientation its hard to see which way your now facing. Particulary today as its cloudy.

All settings are the same and the only improvment i feel is the anti balloning at high speeds. Which is quite usefull for me as i fly a lot at higher speeds. The model tracks a lot and i mean a lot better at increased pitch and speed or fast turns. Its linear and no balooning or blowouts from large collective and cyclic
It almost feels boring lol!!!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on July 09, 2015, 11:51:50 AM
Quote from: helicraze;1612075
I doubt it. As i understand the v6 is more about being vcontrol platform. Its not providing improvements such as v4 to v5 if you know what i mean.

I wasn't sure about that as I kept reading people saying how V6 felt better than V5 so assumed there were some tweaks, but haddn't seen any documentation other than peoples impressions. Maybe it was just new owners bias after getting the VControl.

Quote from: helicraze;1612075
I just flew my neo, rescue is flawless however from inverted its interesting as you dont really know where the tail will end up. I would have liked tail in always. As if you loose orientation its hard to see which way your now facing. Particulary today as its cloudy.

Most of the bail outs work that way, they don't have a compass built in and usually use what ever combination of elevator and aileron will allow the heli to be brought back to upright the fastest. The Skookum with GPS is one of the few that does bring the heli back in tail in as it has the compass in the GPS unit.

I know Thomas (the origional Brain developer) in his new FBL unit (EZNOV, now he has left MSH) has set it up so that aileron takes precedence, that way the tail will more likely stay in the same orientation as when you hit the bail out switch, i.e. if it is tail in it will roll to tail in and if it is nose in, it will roll to nose in upright. It should make it easier to keep your orientation rather than the combined elevator and aileron used on other units that meant the tail would nearly always end up somewhere else after you bail out.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on July 11, 2015, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: Thunder Fighter;1612077
I wasn't sure about that as I kept reading people saying how V6 felt better than V5 so assumed there were some tweaks, but haddn't seen any documentation other than peoples impressions. Maybe it was just new owners bias after getting the VControl.

//Dennis.


Hey Dennis

yes there is definitely a noticeable  improvement  from V5 to  V6 ,

what i think  Michael meant was you wont be able to upgrade existing vbars to V6 without VBC

you will need a NEO if you want V6 with a Jeti or other manufacturers TX's
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Grubscrew on July 11, 2015, 06:06:50 PM
I have found the tail alot better in V6. I set the gain and then didn't touch it on my X3, it was perfect!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on July 11, 2015, 06:23:06 PM
It is a pity that many Vbar pilots won't get the V6 improvements on the old units but VContol users will get them. I have seen a few people making comments that they are thinking of moving away from Vbar as they are worried about the ongoing 2 class structure with the VContol users and other Tx users. Not that I can blame Mikado for wanting to drive their radio, it makes business sense for them, but it is a strategy that might drive people who don't want to lock-in to the Vbar only setup away.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on July 16, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
The universal (non-VControl) Mikado VBar NEO's are now available for purchase. Only slightly larger than the traditional Mini VBar, these units will connect to your JR, Spektrum, HOTT or Futaba receivers. Features V6.0 VBar, Rescue/bailout ability, and special anti ballooning facility to provide a better stability at high speed, as well as much improved performance at flying with very low rpm. The (sometimes violent) balloon effect on the edge at high speed is almost gone. The power supply has also been hardened against spikes and back EMF from servos that have insufficient internal filtering. Pricing seemed pretty reasonable at US$220, considering this is now the full-size VBar unit…
 
Even with VControl, I can see times where this universal version of the NEO teamed with the separate VControl receiver will be a better combination and lend itself to an easier installation in some heli's, particularly where light weight carbon fuses/canopies are used. Even on the TDR I'm thinking that is will be easier to get the separate receiver up where the antennas can "poke" out the top of the canopy (behind the swash) using the factory antenna tube locations, and then just mount the (universal) NEO controller down on the gyro platform at the back of the chassis...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: finky on July 16, 2015, 08:57:21 PM
Mark are the non inbuilt Rx able to do rescue?
I'm not sure, as it's an app on the Vcontrol.

I have ordered way too many. I'm using the inbuilt Rx version, and will have a few spare Neo without inbuilt Rx on Monday if anyone  is interested send me a pm.


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on July 17, 2015, 07:14:01 AM
Quote from: finky;1612370
Mark are the non inbuilt Rx able to do rescue?
I'm not sure, as it's an app on the Vcontrol.

Hi Len,  yes, according to the Mikado, the universal NEO will still do rescue.  Sounds like another great controller from Mikado.

M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on July 17, 2015, 07:26:39 AM
Mark i was in the same frame of mind as you with the separate sat but having one less failure point is enough for me to use the combined version. I will make it fit  :)

Hey Len ,they're not domino's
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on July 17, 2015, 07:41:41 AM
Hi Andrew,   I am thinking of pursuing your line of thought, and see if I can "special" order a NEO with "longer" antennas...  Would like to use the antenna mount (tubes) on top of the TDR behind the swash...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on July 17, 2015, 07:54:16 AM
Quote from: wizza;1612377
Hi Andrew,   I am thinking of pursuing your line of thought, and see if I can "special" order a NEO with "longer" antennas...  Would like to use the antenna mount (tubes) on top of the TDR behind the swash...


I have asked Rainer and Eddie if we can modify the current one using the longer futaba fasst antenna's ,which have the same mini coax connection . they said it is possible and will work . The problem lies in swapping them over , in the not so capable hands theres a good chance something can go wrong .  they did say that they will have a think about an option . if they do respond with a yes on the SO let me know , i think the more that request this will make it happen .
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on July 17, 2015, 07:59:19 AM
Quote from: Fasster;1612378
I have asked Rainer and Eddie if we can modify the current one using the longer futaba fasst antenna's ,which have the same mini coax connection . they said it is possible and will work . The problem lies in swapping them over , in the not so capable hands theres a good chance something can go wrong .  they did say that they will have a think about an option . if they do respond with a yes on the SO let me know , i think the more that request this will make it happen .

I think I'll have a look around and try to source the antennas (pre-made / Futaba) and do the mod myself.  Elec Eng is my background, so should be able to work something out...  I'll keep in touch - maybe we do a couple of them at the same time....
M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on July 17, 2015, 08:03:01 AM
Looks like PerthRC have the Futaba rx antennas in stock - FUTRXANTR505FS150.   I'll measure the stock one tonight and compare the lengths...  I'll let you know...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: mr_squiggle on July 17, 2015, 08:25:06 AM
Quote from: wizza;1612380
Looks like PerthRC have the Futaba rx antennas in stock - FUTRXANTR505FS150.   I'll measure the stock one tonight and compare the lengths...  I'll let you know...


I have two of them at home if you want to try them and just replace them later.


Citizen #186
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: sjv on July 26, 2015, 09:06:45 PM
I'm sure this has been answered somewhere or it's completely obvious to everyone else and nobody ever needed to asked it...

How do you change the vbar control to have both (mode2) throttle and cyclic sticks centred and sprung? Is something extra required to be purchased or as standard does it come ready to adjust?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: MadBird on July 26, 2015, 09:30:13 PM
The V-Control is built with similar principals to other radios such as older JR's etc where the spring, cam lever and ratchet/brake are swapped from one stick to the other when changing modes. Therefore to make both sticks sprung like you want you would beed to buy an new spring and cam lever which do not appear to be available as spare parts from Mikado. I'm sure they'll probably help you out with the parts though if you contact them.

Check P14 of the V-Control manual for info.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on July 26, 2015, 09:35:57 PM
I know a few of the guys have done the sprung collective mod so were able to get the parts, not sure if they came from the local agent or somewhere else though.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on July 26, 2015, 09:46:27 PM
you need to contact Mikado de and ask for a extra  spring kit  (spring, spring pin ,screw and cam lever )   , they will look after you.

use some plastic grease on the contact points after installing , when done reset collective centre fine on the VBC to give you 0 pitch at 0 stick.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: sjv on July 26, 2015, 10:21:51 PM
So it's worth getting then. Fasster, do you know if they send these out for cheap? Or is jt a £50 add-on?


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: sjv on July 26, 2015, 10:23:59 PM
Or I could just buy one of Fasster's spare tx!! So that he can buy a new coloured one. :)

(Joking)


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helicraze on July 27, 2015, 08:29:49 AM
Ive got some spare spring sets for centre return (ordered then ages ago)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Jody on July 27, 2015, 08:30:59 AM
What's the fascination with centre sprung throttle?


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: sjv on July 27, 2015, 08:47:51 AM
I find having the sprung feedback on the pitch control helpful.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on July 27, 2015, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: Jody;1612706
What's the fascination with centre sprung throttle?

There are quite a few of us using it down here and I think most of the guys who have tried it, stick with it. It doesn't take long to adopt to flying it, only a couple of weeks in my experience. My biggest problem was getting used to not being able to reposition my thumb on the collective stick as often. I was doing this unconsciously before I swapped over but after changing I had to wait till I was in a zero pitch condition before repositioning my thumb.

I found it improved the consistency of my flying, especially with competition flying with moves like axial roll reversals and vertical 1/2 rolls being much easier to repeat each time. Not sure it makes as much difference with freestyle 3d type flying, you could see it as a bit like mode 1 vs mode 2 in that it makes some things a little easier but it doesn't make up for practice and skill. I haven't seen any downside to it, so while I don't think everyone should convert, it is something that is worth trying to see if you like it or not.

Why not try it Jody? :)

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: sjv on July 27, 2015, 10:18:42 AM
A definite pain is if you also fly planes. I've flown a plane with the centred throttle and had to set it up with centre and below as 0%.


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Jody on July 27, 2015, 01:07:59 PM
Ok I see I kinda figured it might be the case however was not certain. You mexicans eh!! LOL anyhow I might try it why not :-0
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on September 15, 2015, 04:23:12 PM
Had a wrap made up by ninja wraps to match my Logo

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn90/iillusionss/IMG_3701_zpsje05cet3.jpg) (http://s302.photobucket.com/user/iillusionss/media/IMG_3701_zpsje05cet3.jpg.html)

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn90/iillusionss/IMG_3697_zpszmsebxzp.jpg) (http://s302.photobucket.com/user/iillusionss/media/IMG_3697_zpszmsebxzp.jpg.html)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on September 15, 2015, 04:28:12 PM
Here's my VControl treatment, from Ninja Wraps.  Kept it simple and went with the Carbon look...

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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Goody63 on September 16, 2015, 09:31:16 AM
Quote from: wizza;1613810
Here's my VControl treatment, from Ninja Wraps.  Kept it simple and went with the Carbon look...

[ATTACH=CONFIG]60550[/ATTACH]
{click photo to enlarge}

Those wraps look great. Mind me asking what the rough cost is for getting one done through Team Ninja?

Cheers
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Jody on September 16, 2015, 11:12:48 PM
I was able to get the bit I wanted done without a full ninja wrap and I like the matt black of the one I got looks cool!!

(http://www.archeli.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60552&stc=1)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on September 17, 2015, 07:00:37 AM
Quote from: Goody63;1613819
Those wraps look great. Mind me asking what the rough cost is for getting one done through Team Ninja?

Cheers

Goody,  Depends on what you design / ask for...  Mine was only about $20 bucks....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on December 30, 2015, 11:56:41 PM
Ok, just read all 34 pages!! After having the opportunity of checking one out and having it in my hands it's got me curious.......For those that are using the Vbar Controller, are you still happy with them? happy enough to stick with Vbar units?

Thinking of getting a NEO to try out at first, just using my DX8, then maybe getting a VBC!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on December 31, 2015, 01:19:00 AM
I am interested too. Any feedback would be helpful especially the usability :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on December 31, 2015, 08:46:25 AM
Hi ozzy,  I'm still loving the VC radio and NEO's.  I'd say if you just wanna try Neo, and haven't tried vbar before, just get a second hand vbar and give it a go. Will feel just about the same without the rescue.   If your going to try VC radio and this is where the interest is, do it with Vlink NEO and get the integrated unit with built in receiver.  Much more convenient me thinks.....  Just another thought and angle at looking at it....  Feel free to drop me a PM and we can chat about the VC radio if you like and give you more feedback and info...

M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on December 31, 2015, 09:04:15 AM
Hi Wizza, thanks for the info..... If I did get a Vbar to try can it be used later on with the VBC and upgraded to V6? what about Pro Rescue?

One thing i have noticed is you never see a 2nd hand NEO or VBC for sale, i guess that says something hey!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Waxie on December 31, 2015, 09:27:51 AM
They do come up for sale occasionally but dont last long.  With the neo you can plug in the vbar sat and run v6 with v controll, the same as all of the older vbars.  Rescue still works as well but it is an upgrade you pay for.

Im seriously looking at geting a new radio vcontroll and jeti are at the top of my list.  I like that the jeti is open source and fbls can and will be intergrated as they become more popular.  BK have released there own version which should help.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on December 31, 2015, 10:40:09 AM
Hi Ozzy,  If you were to get a Vbar now and give it a try, you can upgrade it to Ver6 "later" when you have a VC radio, and use the VLink satellite that comes with the VC radio.  You dont get rescue or self leveling when using an older Vbar and a VLink satellite.   Need a NEO for that.   I just find the integrated NEOs (built in receiver) more simple to mount on the heli and one less "box" to worry about or fail (the separate satellite receiver and interconnecting cable).  Thats where I was coming from, and just my feelings...  Nothing more than that and a personal thing, and no issue at all using an older Vbar with a Vlink satellite later....

Waxie,  I was in "exactly" the same place you are, and was considering the Jeti and the VControl.  In the end, the VC radio was less cost and as every heli I fly had Vbar the VC radio made better sense.  And I figured that if I didn't like it for what ever reason, it would sell in a flash second hand (as you say, they dont last long on the used market).  So I figured I had  just about nothing to loose.  The gimbals on the VC radio are super smooth, and that comment is having come from a JR DSX12.  They really are that nice.  I set the spring tensions to what I like, and I installed the collective/throttle stick travel limiters, and that made the feel "exactly" the same as the DSX12 for me.  Close my eyes and I cant tell the difference...  I use the Hyperion phase sensor on my helis with the Koni ESCs and this sends the RPM into the telemetry stream of the NEO and down to your radio.  At first I was only using  it see and monitor RPM, but now I am using the NEO Gov on all of the heli's using these sensors.  I also have a U/I sensor and will be testing that out this year coming, but thats not a big one for me as I have JLogs on all the helis.  But will be a nice option and interesting to try out.

Hope this info helps.  As mentioned, PM me your mobi and happy to have a chat sometime if you like.

Cheers for now guys....

M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on December 31, 2015, 11:11:45 AM
Quote from: wizza;1615782
Hi Ozzy,  If you were to get a Vbar now and give it a try, you can upgrade it to Ver6 "later" when you have a VC radio, and use the VLink satellite that comes with the VC radio.  You dont get rescue or self leveling when using an older Vbar and a VLink satellite.   Need a NEO for that.   I just find the integrated NEOs (built in receiver) more simple to mount on the heli and one less "box" to worry about or fail (the separate satellite receiver and interconnecting cable).  Thats where I was coming from, and just my feelings...  Nothing more than that and a personal thing, and no issue at all using an older Vbar with a Vlink satellite later....

M

Awesome!! that's answered my question, thanks for that.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: finky on December 31, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
Steve ive been on vbar control since early this year. very happy with it. its just convenient and works well. I was using Neo, but have since gone back to the older units and vbar sat rx.
Im surrounded by all futaba and CGY at the club, but cant see myself changing from vbar any time soon
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on December 31, 2015, 03:31:08 PM
Thanks Len, good to hear!! The more i read about them the more i like. Been watching the youtube vids as well, they sure are easy to use, a lot of it just makes sence.....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ChopsyWA on December 31, 2015, 10:01:37 PM
Just maidened Vcontrol, and my Kasama Dune at the same time, in 40km/hr winds down the local soccer oval.
I had to make some tuning adjustments, so I landed, and without taking a step toward the heli I adjusted my gains on the tx and then flicked the motor cut switch and took off to fly my adjustments.
Holy sh1t how bloody easy! :)

Gone now are the days of multiple tuning flights with landing->carrying to the bench->canopy off->unplug mains->hook up laptop->fire up heli->adjust->canopy back on->carry out-> take off...

Land->adjust->fly = worth it for that alone.

I was contemplating Jeti, but due to cost the switch to Vcontrol was cheaper and easier. While the radio does come across a bit cheap and plastic poop, once you sim with it a bit all concerns go away. Being stuck to Mikado concerned me a little, but I realized all the FBL controllers are good though nothing is gained by not going vbar, plus they are working on a receiver for other fbl units - which will facilitate use of the VC Tx.
If you don't find yourself tuning allot, just start with a non-vlink neo. :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on December 31, 2015, 11:05:05 PM
Note that the NEO uses new and higher bit / resolution sensors (16 bit I think Rainer said it was) to that of the older silver and blue lines. My first flights on the NEOs felt so locked in and stable, and I think this is what I was feeling. I do highly recommend the NEOs and prefer them over the old silver and blues....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 15, 2016, 12:27:27 PM
Got myself a NEO, upgraded it to Pro Rescue... I'm just using it with my DX8 for the moment, I followed the transmitter setup on the Vstabi web site, so far so good!!

Just need to setup the NEO Gov tonight/tomorrow then off to the field on Sunday to try it out.....

In the mean time I'm going to keep an eye out for a 2nd hand V controller, if no luck i'll just buy a new one. I see Perth RC sell them, does anyone else in OZ sell them?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Waxie on January 15, 2016, 01:05:33 PM
A lot of people buy direct from mikado.de.  once you register all of the prices come up taxfree some of the combos are good value.  Stock doesnt last long though.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on January 15, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
Quote from: Ozzy Mozzy;1616092
Got myself a NEO, upgraded it to Pro Rescue... I'm just using it with my DX8 for the moment, I followed the transmitter setup on the Vstabi web site, so far so good!!

Just need to setup the NEO Gov tonight/tomorrow then off to the field on Sunday to try it out.....

In the mean time I'm going to keep an eye out for a 2nd hand V controller, if no luck i'll just buy a new one. I see Perth RC sell them, does anyone else in OZ sell them?

Hi Ozzy,  As far as I know, PerthRC are the Aust agents for Mikado, and I dont think any other hobby stores sell the VC radio is Aust.  I could be wrong, but thats how I think it is.  I have bought a few times from MikadoAsia when stock was not avail in Aust, and pricing and delivery was ok...  Only thought in this case may be warranty, and having an Aust warranty could be nice, if you need it down the track.  Just a thought...

Cheers for now...

M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on January 15, 2016, 03:42:33 PM
I will pick mine up this arvo from Perth RC. When you add shipment Germany you end up around the same amount in the Aussie store (benefit: warranty, ctick, no wait for delivery and support local).

@Ozzy: they got two in stock :D
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on January 16, 2016, 10:03:35 AM
Nice one Marco.   I updated my VC Tx last night with the new firmware and all the new apps.  Also updated all NEO's with new firmware.  All went ok.  No need to reprogram, and pretty quick.  Tip, if you want to load the custom screen app, make and load a screen first from VStabi website, before you load that app. This will stop you getting a blank screen on the radio and wondering what went wrong....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 16, 2016, 10:31:07 AM
Thanks for the heads up Marco, looks like i might be onto one for $800 just waiting on some Pics
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: savage600 on January 16, 2016, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: Ozzy Mozzy;1616119
Thanks for the heads up Marco, looks like i might be onto one for $800 just waiting on some Pics
Hey Ozzy Lol :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Mattw15585 on January 16, 2016, 01:54:22 PM
If there is anyone else looking to off load a VControl let me know as well.
Been looking at these bad boys for ages
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 17, 2016, 06:38:09 PM
Tried out the NEO today on my Synergy e5..... WOW what a difference, locked in and precise..... I feel so much more confident and i'm pushing it a lot more than i did. I'll be on the lookout for more! can't wait to get the VBC now.

Oh and i tried out the rescue feature, well worth it for peace of mind and it just works!!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 29, 2016, 11:49:59 AM
Got myself a VBC yesterday afternoon...... Playing around with it last night, setting up the Apps ill use etc... tried out the User defined main screen on the Vstabi site, very cool feature amongst many!!

I want to get the voltage capacity sensor so i can fly to mah rather than time... Has anyone just used plugs on the wires so they can move it from Heli to Heli rather than buying one for each Heli?

Looking forward to getting used to where everything is and setting up the Synergy via the VBC, that will be different.....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on January 29, 2016, 06:36:44 PM
I use bullet connectors with my cacacity sensors on all of my Helis so you could just use and appropriate plug like an EC5, but I think you will find the harder part is running the wire that has to connect back into the Vbar. As that has to run from the ESC to the Vbar you have to run the wire in a more permanent way to keep it out of your mechanics. If course you could mount a cable on the Heli and put a plug up near the front as a solution but you will need to find a source for the plugs the Vbar uses to be able to make that cable up for each additional Heli you want to use it on and graft a normal servo connector onto the sensor lead. Not sure what connector the Vbar uses but if it is the same as the Spektrum satellite connector then they are easy to find.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 29, 2016, 06:57:19 PM
Thanks Dennis..... Yeah i was thinking of just using EC5 connectors to keep it the same as all the lipos, although my Goblin 380 uses the ec3 connectors ( I could always change them). The plug from the sensor to the NEO is the same as the Spektrum Sat, I was thinking about this today......all i should need to do is get some long  Spekky sat extensions and run them from the NEO up to the front with a servo connector on the end..... then of course add a servo connector to the sensor...

So essentially i can be done!!!

I'll order one and go through the process, see how it turns out!!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on January 29, 2016, 09:31:52 PM
Ozzy,  I've just fitted the Mikado U/I sensor to my Logo600SX.  First one for me...  I contemplated the install for a while and considered all options.  In my case on the Logo600, I figured that if I was to use EC5's on the sensor, I'd end up with too much wire up front and tight turns trying to plug in the battery.  Every heli will be different, but in my case on the Logo, I figured it just wouldn't lend itself to the install.  I recon each heli will be different and some may lend themselves to EC5s on the leads, and some may not.  I also considered the sensor signal wire to the NEO, and figured that having the sensor closer to the ESC, the sensor signal wire will be more protected and suffer less movement over time.  I've posted a few photos on my FB page if you wanna check out how I did the Logo.  Happy to chat sometime if you want more info...  Cheers mate...

M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 29, 2016, 09:54:14 PM
Hey Mark, I found the pics thanks..... I see what you mean, not a lot of room, I could face the same challenge. I guess i'll know for sure once i have one, i can then physically check with each Heli to see what will work, if at all. Even if it's only a couple that is needed to share, depending on the configuration!

When i get around to ordering one and start playing around with possible setups, ill post some pics.....


Steve
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on January 30, 2016, 01:01:34 AM
I have dedicated one sensor per model and actually mount the sensor to the ESC or airframe so I don't have the weight and flex on the components. In my case with the Jeti, there are also different size and current capabilities available so I can get a smaller unit (which also uses smaller wire) to suit my smaller Helis and use the bigger units on my 700 plus Helis. They have 50A, 100A, 150A and 200A versions and I have another brand sensor that will take 400A. These are the continuous measurement capabilities and they will take much larger peaks but the measurement will clip after these values.

For sure it adds to the cost of each heli but I found it added between 30% and 50% to my flight time per pack while making sure I never damage a pack due to a deep discharge.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on February 03, 2016, 10:01:29 AM
To be honest I’ll probably end up with a sensor on each heli....... Especially if i can’t find an easy clean solution.

I just setup the Synergy e5 and Goblin 380 with NEO’s and using the Vbar Controller.
It’s just so simple! Very easy and I really like being able to make any changes via the TX....

I had my first flight with the VBC yesterday afternoon, didn’t take much to get used too! I love the big bright screen, much easier for my eyes to read than the DX8. The only change i’ll make with the TX is turn the rescue and lock switches around 180, I might turn the rescue switch 90 so that rescue side points to the antenna, so then I only need to push it inwards rather than pull it towards me or push it away from me..... I'll see what feels more comfortable....

I’m very happy with it and it was a great move!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on February 03, 2016, 10:08:36 AM
Did some testing and logging last weekend on the Mikado U/I sensor, and posted some results on my FB page.  In short, the U/I sensor was within about 15-20mA of what the charger put back into the battery.  So all good in my book, and happy with that result....   I think if soldering the U/I sensor, have a really good iron, get in and get out quick and make a nice connection, so as to avoid excessive heat into the shunt and possibly part desoldering the shunt and/or moving it, thus effecting the calibration.  And be extremely careful not to get solder up on the top of the shunt and especially in the calibration cutout on the shunt....  Just a couple of thoughts....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: DanRC on February 03, 2016, 10:16:27 AM
Quote from: Ozzy Mozzy;1616452
To be honest I’ll probably end up with a sensor on each heli....... Especially if i can’t find an easy clean solution.

I just setup the Synergy e5 and Goblin 380 with NEO’s and using the Vbar Controller.
It’s just so simple! Very easy and I really like being able to make any changes via the TX....

I had my first flight with the VBC yesterday afternoon, didn’t take much to get used too! I love the big bright screen, much easier for my eyes to read than the DX8. The only change i’ll make with the TX is turn the rescue and lock switches around 180, I might turn the rescue switch 90 so that rescue side points to the antenna, so then I only need to push it inwards rather than pull it towards me or push it away from me..... I'll see what feels more comfortable....

I’m very happy with it and it was a great move!


Nice work Ozzy!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on February 06, 2016, 10:16:38 PM
Out again today flying with the VBC.... I turned the switches around 180 and it's much better, now just need to get a U/I sensor.... couple of times i came down after the timer went off and still had 50% left in the pack.... just depends on what IU im in.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on February 12, 2016, 12:22:59 AM
So happy I moved from Futaba to VBC! So intuitive and simple :smirk:

I love the Neo rescue .... I hope is saves me from repair. Next is to get UI sensor going!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on February 12, 2016, 09:27:33 AM
Hey guys I fly mode 2 and I’m really curious about having a my collective stick spring loaded and centred!!

What do I need to do to the VBC
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on February 12, 2016, 10:40:22 AM
1st  you need to email Mikado  and order a spring kit from them , you will also need some plastic grease , i use the futaba plastic servo grease (use a very small amount to basically cover all the contact points)

 remove the back cover of the TX   , remove the tension bracket and drop in the arm , ( a little fiddly ,need a steady hand ,refer to other side for reference ) once the arm is in sit it on the little ledge to keep it in place ,the grease that you applied to the contact points will help keep it in place while you attach the spring.

, adjust tension ,  bolt it back together  turn it on  and  reset collective centre fine .


or drop by and i'll help you convert it
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on February 12, 2016, 10:59:24 AM
Awesome!!! Thanks Andrew, I’ll email Edward for the parts now.

When I get them I’ll open the radio up and give it a go, if I don’t feel comfortable I’ll take you up on that offer.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on February 12, 2016, 11:45:42 AM
Installed a Battery ID sensor on the Logo600 last night.  Really simple and quick install, and literally plug-n-play into the NEO after you enable the BatteryID app in the VC radio.  I posted a few photos up on my Facebook page, and a bit of a mini review.  Means that when you install a battery now and turn on the heli, it automatically selects the correct battery from your Battery list for the U/I logging.  You have about 3 or maybe even 4cm's range to the RF ID tag, and both sides of the sensor are an antenna so finding a mounting position for the sensor wasn't too hard.

(https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/12657237_1688218618057693_1150909447182911195_o.jpg)

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(https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/886862_1688218628057692_5532437293286999053_o.jpg)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on February 12, 2016, 12:01:12 PM
That’s so damn neat! Literally plug in and fly hey.....

I went to buy the Voltage Capacity sensor last night, Perth RC are out of stock!!

Is there anywhere else in Oz you can get them from?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on February 12, 2016, 12:04:26 PM
I was talking to Brian earlier this week, and he has U/I sensors on order from Mikado.  He's getting another couple over for myself.  I'm expecting a week or two, all going well.  Suggest just give him a call at PerthRC and order one.  I'd rather wait a week or two and know that I have Aust warranty backing me...  ;)

If you know that you have a shorter run, from the UI sensor to the NEO, you can order a 250mm sensor cable, which will work out better on some helis.  Just food for thought...

Cheers....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on February 12, 2016, 12:07:42 PM
Oh, and the sensor cable is a "data bus" meaning that you can daisy chain sensors on a single cable.  There are two connectors on the Battery ID sensor, so in some cases you may just run one 500mm cable (included) from the NEO to the Battery ID sensor, and then a shorter 250mm sensor cable to your U/I sensor.  Connecting the sensors in series.  This may work out better on some heli installations....

M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on February 15, 2016, 10:02:26 AM
a good vid for the guys that are using the current sensor

[video=youtube;AOqTtA1qI8g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOqTtA1qI8g[/video]
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Mattw15585 on February 15, 2016, 08:27:01 PM
Is anyone using the wireless sim with NeXt?
I can't seem to get it to recognise properly
Any tips?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ChopsyWA on February 15, 2016, 08:56:54 PM
Only with a heap of dicking around it seems:

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=6850628

Usb always works though. Sim session will be online tonight in another hour or so with Next sim.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Mattw15585 on February 15, 2016, 08:59:32 PM
Yeah I read that and it made no sense as I'm tired lol.
Looks like a lot of messing around.
Got it working with Phoenix so might just wirelessly do that and usb it with next
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on May 06, 2016, 10:25:31 PM
Finally got myself a Capacity sensor! And a GPS sensor!

It's so nice flying by mah used instead by the clock. I have set it up so that I can easily swap it to another Heli as well, it’s all plug and play.... I can also plug the VBC via the USB into the laptop and from the Vbar flight analyzer I can import all the info from for each Heli that I have setup....

Not really into speed runs but the GPS logs my flight and I can upload a file to Google maps, it’s actually interesting to see your flight path etc...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: brw0513 on July 09, 2016, 12:36:19 PM
Been thinking about this controller for a while.  I've got a few basic (dumb) questions.

Would I be right to assume the NEO is used with other brand Tx while the the NEO VLink is used with the VBar Control Tx?

When do you need the NEO/NEO VLink with separate gyro?

Much more reading to do tonight :)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ChopsyWA on July 09, 2016, 12:48:37 PM
Quote from: brw0513;1618714
Been thinking about this controller for a while.  I've got a few basic (dumb) questions.

Would I be right to assume the NEO is used with other brand Tx while the the NEO VLink is used with the VBar Control Tx?

When do you need the NEO/NEO VLink with separate gyro?

Much more reading to do tonight :)


Neo Vlink is for Vcontrol.
Standard Neo is for other Tx, and can also be used with Vcontrol (with Vcontrol Rx and special cable).

Separate gyro only for extreme vibration helis like Turbines, maybe useful for nitros but not sure as I don't run nitro. It can be used on any heli, but you still need the Neo box on level platform as its sensors are still used even with the external gyro.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ChopsyWA on July 09, 2016, 01:25:31 PM
Good deal here on one :)

http://www.archeli.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=169283&p=1618607#post1618607
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: brw0513 on July 09, 2016, 02:10:41 PM
Quote from: ChopsyWA;1618715
Neo Vlink is for Vcontrol.
Standard Neo is for other Tx, and can also be used with Vcontrol (with Vcontrol Rx and special cable).

Separate gyro only for extreme vibration helis like Turbines, maybe useful for nitros but not sure as I don't run nitro. It can be used on any heli, but you still need the Neo box on level platform as its sensors are still used even with the external gyro.

So what is the satellite Rx that comes with the VBar Control used for?  Everything bar Neo Vlink?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ChopsyWA on July 09, 2016, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: brw0513;1618717
So what is the satellite Rx that comes with the VBar Control used for?  Everything bar Neo Vlink?


Yep, used for mini & silverline vbars on V6, non-Vlink Neo's, and wireless simulator.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: brw0513 on July 09, 2016, 02:48:39 PM
I've been doing a bit more research and its seems the NEO Version 6.1 can be used on a flybar heli:

Can VBar NEO be used on a flybarred heli?

Just tune down the gain on the main rotor/swashplate to zero, then you just have a receiver with an integrated swash plate mixer and tail gyro. Note this is possible with VBar NEO only, its an addition to the 6.1 Version. It does not work on 6.0 (vintage Mini and Full Size VBars)!


Can the Rescue function be used with a flybar heli?  This would be a great feature for me!
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on July 23, 2016, 09:04:34 AM
Hi Ian,  my understanding, yes, NEO rescue will work on a FB Heli.  It's simply inputting cyclic and collective to right the Heli, and will work just fine...  The second set of parallel sensors in the NEO handle upwards of 200G's (force) and do the rescue function.
M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on August 10, 2016, 05:44:23 PM
Not sure if anyone knows this or not but Mark and I just discovered that the U/I Capacity senor works with the Blue full size Vbar..... I have a Mini Vbar as well so i'm going to see if it works too.....

I haven't tried it out at the field with a flight but on the bench the VBC asks you to select a battery just as it would when using a NEO
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ChopsyWA on September 29, 2016, 12:25:17 AM
Vcontrol receiver now available allowing Vcontrol without gyros or using with other FBL units

http://shop.mikado-heli.de/VBar-Electronics/VBar-NEO/VBar-NEO-VBasic-Receiver.htm?shop=k_mikado_e&SessionId=&a=article&ProdNr=05054&t=7568&c=8035&p=8035
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on September 29, 2016, 10:04:32 AM
I am a little confused by the description. Is it a 5 channel Rx only or a 5 analog channels plus x (can't see how many) digital channels? It looks like it supports up to 12 channels as a PPM output Rx so as a single line Rx it should have adequate channels.

Fairly big and expensive for a basic Rx but of course can be upgraded via pay to play to a full Vbar pro. It would still be nice to see a small cheap Rx with single line out support or just basic Rx for applications where that is all you need. Don't know that many will want to spend that much on an Rx for a foamy, cheaper to buy a second Tx for other uses at that price.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ChopsyWA on September 29, 2016, 11:55:18 AM
Hopefully it's just the start of things to come. They have now opened up the Vcontrol to use other systems, so all they need to do is release the smaller & cheaper RX.
Vcontrol is getting even more appealing with every release, and no doubt there are more releases to come ;)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on September 29, 2016, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: ChopsyWA;1619776
Hopefully it's just the start of things to come. They have now opened up the Vcontrol to use other systems, so all they need to do is release the smaller & cheaper RX.
Vcontrol is getting even more appealing with every release, and no doubt there are more releases to come ;)

Yeah, I would have liked the VBasic Receiver to be more around the EURO$80 mark.....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on September 29, 2016, 02:07:50 PM
So if I get this right this Receiver is basically a NEO without the FBL software. So it allows the VBC to be used with other FBL units, and you can still use the VBC to setup and change the FBL straight from the VBC like you normally would with a NEO FBL
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on September 29, 2016, 03:24:06 PM
I think so .... I just sent Rainer a message to confirm. They had to do that, because without any gyro you couldn't use in the plane software with auto trimm:-P
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on September 29, 2016, 03:25:27 PM
AND more Good news. :rockon:

New Scorpion ESC which integrates with VBAR !!!!


-------------------------------------
Tribunus 6S120A ESC series.
Posted on September 22, 2016 by admin
Huston!!! Eagle has landed.
To be release Mid October!
3 to 6S Lipo ,120A continues, 150A peak 3 second.

SBEC, 5.2 to 8.4 Adjustable 10A continues >20A peak.

Airplane and Heli mode,

Stored and unstored Governor, external governor.

Data Logging, Data output port for external data logging device, such as Mikado V control / Vbar combinations. ( more compatible device will be added gradually.

ESC setup can be set by Mikado V control Radio.

PC connectivity, Android connectivity ( OTG cable needed) , Vlink Cable(optional) plus Diode adaptor cable(included) needed.

Size: 23.7MM x 37MM x 73.8MM.
weight: 108 Grams.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on September 29, 2016, 03:52:53 PM
Plenty more info on the Vbasic here http://vstabi.info/en/vbasic (http://vstabi.info/en/vbasic)
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on September 29, 2016, 04:08:05 PM
Trim mode on the VBasic NEO looks interesting, and was certainly not overlooked...  Nice one Big-M....


Trim

There are 3 possible methods to trim a model.

1) Use the field in the trim panel and change the value with the EDS Value

2) Activate the field, and then turn one of the knobs to takeover the trim to the pot (one Flight only)

3) Use the Trim switch to go to trim mode. Use small inputs on the Sticks to trim the model

If in Trim Mode, a small panel is shown which shows the actual trim values. Additinally a singal sounds as long as the NEO is in trim mode.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on September 29, 2016, 10:36:59 PM
Quote from: Ozzy Mozzy;1619778
So if I get this right this Receiver is basically a NEO without the FBL software. So it allows the VBC to be used with other FBL units, and you can still use the VBC to setup and change the FBL straight from the VBC like you normally would with a NEO FBL

You won't be able to setup or change the FBL setting for other units from the VBC. You will only be able to use the VBC and basic unit to set things like set endpoints, channels and reverse during the initial setup. If the other FBL units use extra channels for some settings like banks and gains you should be able to do that, but not get into the setups like you can with BT or other integration like Jeti has.

//Dennis.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on October 13, 2016, 06:36:07 PM
Found these VBC screen protectors on Amazon.

6 in a packet for $11.66 shipped.... they fit perfectly!

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161013/df8097ea6490aa1edfac1cc1adaa00e7.jpg)


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Fasster on October 13, 2016, 07:21:56 PM
Quote from: Ozzy Mozzy;1619955
Found these VBC screen protectors on Amazon.

6 in a packet for $11.66 shipped.... they fit perfectly!

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161013/df8097ea6490aa1edfac1cc1adaa00e7.jpg)


Sent from my iPhone7 @ LSD HQ


they work very well, been using them for while  , you need to clean the screen free of dirt and lint before you lay it down , try to get it right 1st time or its easy to mess it up. its a good thing they give a few in the packet.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 11, 2017, 01:36:09 PM
Quote from: marco;1619780
AND more Good news. :rockon:

New Scorpion ESC which integrates with VBAR !!!!


-------------------------------------
Tribunus 6S120A ESC series.
Posted on September 22, 2016 by admin
Huston!!! Eagle has landed.
To be release Mid October!
3 to 6S Lipo ,120A continues, 150A peak 3 second.

SBEC, 5.2 to 8.4 Adjustable 10A continues >20A peak.

Airplane and Heli mode,

Stored and unstored Governor, external governor.

Data Logging, Data output port for external data logging device, such as Mikado V control / Vbar combinations. ( more compatible device will be added gradually.

ESC setup can be set by Mikado V control Radio.

PC connectivity, Android connectivity ( OTG cable needed) , Vlink Cable(optional) plus Diode adaptor cable(included) needed.

Size: 23.7MM x 37MM x 73.8MM.
weight: 108 Grams.



Has anyone tried one of these yet????
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on January 11, 2017, 02:38:55 PM
So wish that they would have done this first Tribunus with a 12S rating, and kept the weight down.  Hope the soon to be released 14S 200A version doesn't weight the same as a house brick...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on January 11, 2017, 03:34:47 PM
Quote from: Ozzy Mozzy;1621004
Has anyone tried one of these yet????

Yes ME. Super happy.

Just follow the steps. http://www.vstabi.info/en/sc

First time you need the SC software to update the firmware on the ESC and enable the VBar communication protocol in ESC with Scorpion PC Software
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 11, 2017, 03:44:58 PM
What have you got it on and what's the setup?

What peak amps have you seen? any logs?


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on January 12, 2017, 05:14:08 PM
Its Logo 550SX standard setup, enjoy the powerful BEC. I didn't checked the logs yet. Peak amps 160A.
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 12, 2017, 06:54:26 PM
Thanks marco

I hope it can handle up to a peak amp of around 200..... I have seen my Logo hit that a couple of times
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on January 13, 2017, 08:12:51 AM
Are you running your Logo on 6S Steve.. ???   Doesn't this new Tribunus max out at 6S.?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 13, 2017, 08:21:23 AM
Yeah mate 6s, at the moment I'm using a Hawk 120 esc which handles these high peak amps

Yep the new Tribunus is a 120 6s esc


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on January 13, 2017, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: Ozzy Mozzy;1621026
Yeah mate 6s, at the moment I'm using a Hawk 120 esc which handles these high peak amps

Yep the new Tribunus is a 120 6s esc


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Man, I keep forgetting that...  ;)    Cheers buddy....

M
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on January 16, 2017, 04:15:24 PM
Quote from: Ozzy Mozzy;1621020
Thanks marco

I hope it can handle up to a peak amp of around 200..... I have seen my Logo hit that a couple of times

:nuts:

How you getting this amps? What heaspead are runnuning on your Logo? A 550SX?
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on January 16, 2017, 04:17:36 PM
It's a logo 600 on 6s Head speed is 1900 from memory


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Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on January 16, 2017, 05:53:37 PM
That make sense :thumup1:
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ChopsyWA on March 09, 2017, 09:13:25 AM
See Mikado are releasing a Vcontrol Aluminum version, shiny aluminum cased Tx...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on March 09, 2017, 03:13:07 PM
Yeah, was looking this morn, and couldn't find any photos....
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: ChopsyWA on March 09, 2017, 03:31:25 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170309/33968b7ee385171969ec9a3543472095.jpg)

Bloody expensive for no real feature upgrade besides the solid case, which I imagine will get hotter in summer and colder in winter in your hands than the plastic versions...
Title: VBar Control Radio
Post by: beans07 on March 09, 2017, 07:31:45 PM
Had mine since they came out. Really love using this Tx. My flying improved 25% when I switched over to it in the first month. I was able to get more confidence and overall a better feel, in both the way it feels connected when flying and also the ergonoics in the mitts. The sticks are just the right length for me as I felt I always dragged other inputs with my other radios, the gimbles are smooth and it's so easy to tune up the heli and get it just right.

Just need to pimp it out with some stickers
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on December 14, 2017, 09:23:30 PM
Dressed up my Vcontrol with a new wrap....

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/ebb782371e2e9cea8c8c85d3f4dc1986.jpg)


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Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on December 15, 2017, 11:44:46 AM
Very cool! Is this from Ninja wrap?
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on December 15, 2017, 01:04:59 PM
No i tried them but waited way to long so i gave up....

A couple of weeks ago i noticed one posted on FB and found out it was done by a local guy in NSW, search BLR Designs on FB and speak to Luke if you interested.
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: marco on December 15, 2017, 10:42:12 PM
Thanks Ozzy. I had the Helicenter Berlin for a while and now the neon green Mikado.:cool:
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on March 10, 2018, 05:58:34 PM
https://www.facebook.com/kyledahloffical/videos/2001134559915193
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on March 10, 2018, 08:09:25 PM
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28871010_416557138804592_4063916201712025600_n.jpg?oh=cd38feb360f3a42c6bf29e39f0cb4546&oe=5B4666B1)
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on March 10, 2018, 08:25:56 PM
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/28872712_1690959924328377_3960558153036201984_n.jpg?oh=afc6493163b9ed37945d6d779b14e481&oe=5B097E27)
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Ozzy Mozzy on March 10, 2018, 09:59:20 PM
https://www.facebook.com/georges.vangansen/videos/10215830466624190/
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: helitone on March 11, 2018, 11:32:42 AM
very nice  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: alfred on April 09, 2018, 06:04:26 PM
I just bought my VControl less then 3 months ago...LOL
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: muzz on April 09, 2018, 07:25:36 PM
I have one on pre order from Mikado USA 
Is there any issue getting one from the USA?
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: Thunder Fighter on April 09, 2018, 10:11:16 PM
I have one on pre order from Mikado USA
Is there any issue getting one from the USA?
There shouldn't be, it will have FCC certification so will be fine from a radio emission perspective. Your buggest issue will be if you get duty applied when it is shipped as it is well over the $1000aud threshold.

//Dennis.

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Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: muzz on April 10, 2018, 06:02:57 AM
Ok thanks Dennis


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Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: wizza on April 10, 2018, 06:50:10 AM
I have one on pre order from Mikado USA
Is there any issue getting one from the USA?
Muzz,  The concern I saw (and I dont say issue) is that the radio import will likely attract an import tax and possibly a customs clearance fee as well, and may make the unit more expensive than simply buying here in Australia.  Lack of local warranty was my other concern....
Title: Re: VBar Control Radio
Post by: muzz on April 10, 2018, 10:12:02 PM
Thanks Wizza 

I understand I will cop import duties but the alternative to getting one here I don’t like and would pay more to avoid that 
Warranty I guess is a slight concern but even if bought here I’m sure it would be sent OS to be repaired